A good article on terminal ballistics
Terminal Ballistics
Thursday, December 22, 2005
Sunday, December 18, 2005
Tuesday, December 13, 2005
Defense Review - Fiocchi to make 5.7x28mm Ammo for Five-seveN USG Pistol and PS90 Carbine
Defense Review - Fiocchi to make 5.7x28mm Ammo for Five-seveN USG Pistol and PS90 Carbine: "For Immediate Release:
December 12, 2005
Contacts:
Sarah Perry
703.288.1292, X 117
sarahp@fnhusa.com
David A. Golladay, Jr.
864.414.2404
dagolladay@bellsouth.net
FNH USA partners with Fiocchi of America:
New 5.7 x 28mm sporting ammunition to carry the FN brand
McLean, Va. (December 12, 2005) ? As announced in September 2005, Herstal, Belgium-based FN Herstal and Lecco, Italy-based Fiocchi Munizioni S.P.A. have officially signed a cooperative agreement for the manufacturing of 5.7 X 28mm ammunition by Fiocchi in the United States. The 5.7 X 28mm ammunition developed and designed by FN Herstal will be...
marketed under the FN brand name.
This agreement has now been expanded to include the U.S. market. Fiocchi of America will begin loading SS196 SR and SS197 SR cartridges this month in its Ozark, Mo. manufacturing facility with expectations to reach full capacity by first quarter 2006. The FN-designed cartridges will be sold in the U.S. by FNH USA, LLC through its distribution network.
?This agreement allows us to keep pace with consumer demand for the popular 5.7 x 28 mm cartridge as well as the Five seveN? USG handguns and the new and upcoming PS 90? semi-automatic carbine,? said Rick DeMilt, Director of Commercial and Law Enforcement Sales and Marketing for FNH USA. ?Having a U.S. supplier is a significant advantage.?
Founded in 1876 by Giulio Fiocchi, Fiocchi Munizioni S.P.A. is a worldwide leader in the manufacture of small caliber ammunition.
Headquartered in McLean, Va., FNH USA, Inc. is a subsidiary and sales and marketing arm of FN Herstal, S.A., Belgium, whose corporate mis"
December 12, 2005
Contacts:
Sarah Perry
703.288.1292, X 117
sarahp@fnhusa.com
David A. Golladay, Jr.
864.414.2404
dagolladay@bellsouth.net
FNH USA partners with Fiocchi of America:
New 5.7 x 28mm sporting ammunition to carry the FN brand
McLean, Va. (December 12, 2005) ? As announced in September 2005, Herstal, Belgium-based FN Herstal and Lecco, Italy-based Fiocchi Munizioni S.P.A. have officially signed a cooperative agreement for the manufacturing of 5.7 X 28mm ammunition by Fiocchi in the United States. The 5.7 X 28mm ammunition developed and designed by FN Herstal will be...
marketed under the FN brand name.
This agreement has now been expanded to include the U.S. market. Fiocchi of America will begin loading SS196 SR and SS197 SR cartridges this month in its Ozark, Mo. manufacturing facility with expectations to reach full capacity by first quarter 2006. The FN-designed cartridges will be sold in the U.S. by FNH USA, LLC through its distribution network.
?This agreement allows us to keep pace with consumer demand for the popular 5.7 x 28 mm cartridge as well as the Five seveN? USG handguns and the new and upcoming PS 90? semi-automatic carbine,? said Rick DeMilt, Director of Commercial and Law Enforcement Sales and Marketing for FNH USA. ?Having a U.S. supplier is a significant advantage.?
Founded in 1876 by Giulio Fiocchi, Fiocchi Munizioni S.P.A. is a worldwide leader in the manufacture of small caliber ammunition.
Headquartered in McLean, Va., FNH USA, Inc. is a subsidiary and sales and marketing arm of FN Herstal, S.A., Belgium, whose corporate mis"
Monday, December 12, 2005
Answers ... to SBR Form 1 questions (related to HK94)
Answers ...: "In Response To: Thanks! Some form 1 questions ctx.. (Thanks, Calif DOJ!)
1. What do I put as the 'model'?
You can leave the model number alone (HK94), or make up a new one of your choosing. If you want you can call it 'Howard's Most Excellent Short Barreled Bang Stick', if you can find enough room to engrave it ...
2. Do I have to put anything under the 'additional markings' box?
Nothing is required, it's typically only used when you have a sear 'married' to a firearm where the receiver is not registered separately, or when an integral suppressor is permanently mounted to a specific firearm, etc.
3. What is name and address of 'original manufacturer'?
The original manufacturer is HK, but ATF will accept either the manufacturer or importer as the 'original', so either the German address or their US HQ (Sterling, Va) will be fine. No need to have the complete address, ATF knows who (and where) they are. If you really want the entire address do a Goggle on them - they have a website, look under 'contact'.
4. What is best to put for OAL?
Put the actual OAL as the gun is currently configured. No law or regulation requires the OAL be permanent ...
HTH,
Howard "
1. What do I put as the 'model'?
You can leave the model number alone (HK94), or make up a new one of your choosing. If you want you can call it 'Howard's Most Excellent Short Barreled Bang Stick', if you can find enough room to engrave it ...
2. Do I have to put anything under the 'additional markings' box?
Nothing is required, it's typically only used when you have a sear 'married' to a firearm where the receiver is not registered separately, or when an integral suppressor is permanently mounted to a specific firearm, etc.
3. What is name and address of 'original manufacturer'?
The original manufacturer is HK, but ATF will accept either the manufacturer or importer as the 'original', so either the German address or their US HQ (Sterling, Va) will be fine. No need to have the complete address, ATF knows who (and where) they are. If you really want the entire address do a Goggle on them - they have a website, look under 'contact'.
4. What is best to put for OAL?
Put the actual OAL as the gun is currently configured. No law or regulation requires the OAL be permanent ...
HTH,
Howard "
Thursday, December 08, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - PS90 30 round mags easy to make 50!
Posted by 14.5mm:
FN FiveseveN Forums - PS90 30 round mags easy to make 50!: "PS90 30 round mags easy to make 50!
OK, I know there's been lots of gnashing of teeth about the 30 round mags. Me too......then I pawed the one over which came with this review gun......
HO HO
Regular mag with just a filler block in it. Guess what, they made it so that you can still pop the mag right apart for cleaning.....and guess what, the filler comes right out......
Now, the filler is integral to the piece which locks the floorplate on. Soooo, all one would have to do is trim the filler piece off. Then put it back together.....
I only really pawed this mag over after looking at the dissasembly pics of it in the factory manual.
So, it appears you will be able to take plain jane 30 round mags and convert them back into 50 rounders with no problemo......perfectly legal even...
HA"
FN FiveseveN Forums - PS90 30 round mags easy to make 50!: "PS90 30 round mags easy to make 50!
OK, I know there's been lots of gnashing of teeth about the 30 round mags. Me too......then I pawed the one over which came with this review gun......
HO HO
Regular mag with just a filler block in it. Guess what, they made it so that you can still pop the mag right apart for cleaning.....and guess what, the filler comes right out......
Now, the filler is integral to the piece which locks the floorplate on. Soooo, all one would have to do is trim the filler piece off. Then put it back together.....
I only really pawed this mag over after looking at the dissasembly pics of it in the factory manual.
So, it appears you will be able to take plain jane 30 round mags and convert them back into 50 rounders with no problemo......perfectly legal even...
HA"
Tuesday, December 06, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Hi!
Posted by Medula Oblongota:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Hi!: "Reliability of the FiveseveN is phenomenal. I finally shout out the factory FiveseveN barrel a couple of weeks ago at 'only' 40,050 rounds (99% handloads). The only stoppages I had were from short ogive bullets seated too long, a few times where I didn't debur the outside of the neck enough, and one bad lot of Remington 7 1/2 br primers where 20% failed to ignite (Remington replaced the primers and recalled the lot). I had a couple of pierced primers from REALLY hot loads, but was unable to find any damage to the gun no matter what I fed it.
I have had excellent experiences with Viht 3N37, Hodgdon HS-6, and Ramshot True-Blue powders. Incidentally, I just disected a few SS195LF rounds and have determined that the powder appears to be either Ramshot True-Blue or Ramshot Zip @ precisely 6.5 grains (hard to tell without factor load data, which FN refuses to release). I loaded a few rounds about a year ago with Blue Dot, but after looking at the large amount of powder fouling (Blue Dot is a VERY dirty powder because of the large amount of graphite in it) decided not to use it any more.
The bullets to use are .224 diameter. SS195LF uses a 27.3 (average of 25 pulled SS195LF rounds) grain bullet, but I have used as heavy as 77 (longer than mag length and must be loaded singly). The 35 grain VMax is excellent, but hard to load because of its flat base. I prefer the 40grn VMax and Nosler Ballistic tip rounds because they are boat-tailed. But anything you want to use anywhere from 30-46 is pretty safe. Check the cases for excessive pressure before increasing powder weight, and of course, start low and work up to maximum. Check out the reloading forum for load data.
Cleaning of the FiveseveN is a snap, and with the correct powders I went approximately 2000 rounds between"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Hi!: "Reliability of the FiveseveN is phenomenal. I finally shout out the factory FiveseveN barrel a couple of weeks ago at 'only' 40,050 rounds (99% handloads). The only stoppages I had were from short ogive bullets seated too long, a few times where I didn't debur the outside of the neck enough, and one bad lot of Remington 7 1/2 br primers where 20% failed to ignite (Remington replaced the primers and recalled the lot). I had a couple of pierced primers from REALLY hot loads, but was unable to find any damage to the gun no matter what I fed it.
I have had excellent experiences with Viht 3N37, Hodgdon HS-6, and Ramshot True-Blue powders. Incidentally, I just disected a few SS195LF rounds and have determined that the powder appears to be either Ramshot True-Blue or Ramshot Zip @ precisely 6.5 grains (hard to tell without factor load data, which FN refuses to release). I loaded a few rounds about a year ago with Blue Dot, but after looking at the large amount of powder fouling (Blue Dot is a VERY dirty powder because of the large amount of graphite in it) decided not to use it any more.
The bullets to use are .224 diameter. SS195LF uses a 27.3 (average of 25 pulled SS195LF rounds) grain bullet, but I have used as heavy as 77 (longer than mag length and must be loaded singly). The 35 grain VMax is excellent, but hard to load because of its flat base. I prefer the 40grn VMax and Nosler Ballistic tip rounds because they are boat-tailed. But anything you want to use anywhere from 30-46 is pretty safe. Check the cases for excessive pressure before increasing powder weight, and of course, start low and work up to maximum. Check out the reloading forum for load data.
Cleaning of the FiveseveN is a snap, and with the correct powders I went approximately 2000 rounds between"
Friday, December 02, 2005
The Official Defcon Shoot Page *CANCELED*
The Official Defcon Shoot Page *CANCELED*: "
YEAR NINE OF THE DEFCON SHOOT CANCELED
NEWS <07/05/05>
*OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* - Defcon Shoot canceled.
Here is the email I sent out to the dcshoot mailing list:
From chs@23.org Tue Jul 5 08:18:52 2005 -0700
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHS
To: dcshoot@23.org
Subject: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT - Defcon Shoot Canceled.
I'm afraid to announce that this year, I'm stepping down from the defcon
shoot - in effect canceling it..
I've been doing it since defcon 5, and it was always a blast. we had a great
run, but it was originally founded for a bit of desert fun while out at the con
and has since turned into more work than play.
It's grown way too big for its britches and I just don't have the means to
support something of its size anymore. Every year for the past 3-4 years us
RO's have been drawn a little thinner as more and more yahoo's and wackjobs
showed up.
don't get me wrong, 99% of the shooters are great people, and I would gladly
trust them as shooting partners any day of the week. but, well, a few bad
apples and other cliches, you know?
With the end of the shoot I'll be able to concentrate more on gooning and
sleeping in a couple extra hours saturday morning, and party all that much
harder on friday - something that since becoming staff has been incredibly hard
and stressful on me each year.
The defcon shoot has been an incredible success, and save for perhaps the
capture-the-flag contest is the single largest official defcon event. So,
unfortunately defcon will be a little bit quieter this year, without all the
bangs.
Also to mention is its increasingly harder"
YEAR NINE OF THE DEFCON SHOOT CANCELED
NEWS <07/05/05>
*OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT* - Defcon Shoot canceled.
Here is the email I sent out to the dcshoot mailing list:
From chs@23.org Tue Jul 5 08:18:52 2005 -0700
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHS
To: dcshoot@23.org
Subject: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT - Defcon Shoot Canceled.
I'm afraid to announce that this year, I'm stepping down from the defcon
shoot - in effect canceling it..
I've been doing it since defcon 5, and it was always a blast. we had a great
run, but it was originally founded for a bit of desert fun while out at the con
and has since turned into more work than play.
It's grown way too big for its britches and I just don't have the means to
support something of its size anymore. Every year for the past 3-4 years us
RO's have been drawn a little thinner as more and more yahoo's and wackjobs
showed up.
don't get me wrong, 99% of the shooters are great people, and I would gladly
trust them as shooting partners any day of the week. but, well, a few bad
apples and other cliches, you know?
With the end of the shoot I'll be able to concentrate more on gooning and
sleeping in a couple extra hours saturday morning, and party all that much
harder on friday - something that since becoming staff has been incredibly hard
and stressful on me each year.
The defcon shoot has been an incredible success, and save for perhaps the
capture-the-flag contest is the single largest official defcon event. So,
unfortunately defcon will be a little bit quieter this year, without all the
bangs.
Also to mention is its increasingly harder"
Thursday, December 01, 2005
Wednesday, November 30, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Clarification of civilian-legal "Tactical" Five-seveNs
Posted by fivesevenshooter:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Clarification of civilian-legal "Tactical" Five-seveNs: "Hi, I'm new to the board and really like what you guys have done with the place
I actually joined up here with the intent of selling my Five-seveN...little did I know what kind of mess I was getting into! My pistol happens to be a 'Tactical' model (quotes intentional), and it seems after reading the archives here that there's a little confusion regarding exactly what the heck a civilian-legal Tactical is.
When FN first started importing the Tactical/DAO pistols into the US, the ATF restricted them to military/law enforcement only. This meant that no matter what, even though the Five-seveN amounts to basically a semi-auto pistol, civilians couldn't own them. This was for a couple reasons. Firstly, the only mags produced by FN were of 20 round capacity. This was at the time of the magazine ban, so that was one limiting factor. Also, the ATF had some misgivings regarding the 5.7x28mm load. When they saw the Five-seveN, they saw a semi-auto pistol with 20 rounds of armor-piercing ammunition and no mag safety. In short, not something they really wanted to hit the streets. Hence the decision for the Tactical's military/law enforcement only status.
Eventually, FN started seeing a demand from law enforcement officers who wanted to buy personal weapons. This resulted in the development of the I.O.M. (Individual Officer Model). The plan was to allow law enforcement officers to purchase new I.O.M.s, provided they show proof of their officer status (essentially signing a little affidavit-like document).
When FN was going through the IOM approval process, the IOM as we know it did not exist. To get this through ATF and provide preliminary samples to reps, FN took several Tactical Five-seveNs, modified their 20-round m"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Clarification of civilian-legal "Tactical" Five-seveNs: "Hi, I'm new to the board and really like what you guys have done with the place
I actually joined up here with the intent of selling my Five-seveN...little did I know what kind of mess I was getting into! My pistol happens to be a 'Tactical' model (quotes intentional), and it seems after reading the archives here that there's a little confusion regarding exactly what the heck a civilian-legal Tactical is.
When FN first started importing the Tactical/DAO pistols into the US, the ATF restricted them to military/law enforcement only. This meant that no matter what, even though the Five-seveN amounts to basically a semi-auto pistol, civilians couldn't own them. This was for a couple reasons. Firstly, the only mags produced by FN were of 20 round capacity. This was at the time of the magazine ban, so that was one limiting factor. Also, the ATF had some misgivings regarding the 5.7x28mm load. When they saw the Five-seveN, they saw a semi-auto pistol with 20 rounds of armor-piercing ammunition and no mag safety. In short, not something they really wanted to hit the streets. Hence the decision for the Tactical's military/law enforcement only status.
Eventually, FN started seeing a demand from law enforcement officers who wanted to buy personal weapons. This resulted in the development of the I.O.M. (Individual Officer Model). The plan was to allow law enforcement officers to purchase new I.O.M.s, provided they show proof of their officer status (essentially signing a little affidavit-like document).
When FN was going through the IOM approval process, the IOM as we know it did not exist. To get this through ATF and provide preliminary samples to reps, FN took several Tactical Five-seveNs, modified their 20-round m"
Tuesday, November 29, 2005
Monday, November 28, 2005
Wednesday, November 23, 2005
Tuesday, November 22, 2005
Monday, November 21, 2005
Thursday, November 17, 2005
Wednesday, November 16, 2005
don't just equipe the JTF2
don't just equipe the JTF2: "For fighting in close confines, the JTF-2 is now equipped with a new submachine gun. The Fabrique Nationale P-90 is a novel concept based upon an innovative needle-nosed bullet that is intended to penetrate the Kevlar fabric of modern body armour. The smaller calibre allows the P-90 to house up to 50 rounds in a clear plastic magazine. Not only does this give a soldier a longer, sustained fire capability, it also enables the shooter to know exactly how many bullets he has left in his magazine."
Tuesday, November 15, 2005
Monday, November 14, 2005
Wednesday, November 09, 2005
Extreme Shock - The World's Most Advanced Ammunition
The ASP rounds are interesting, and might serve as a model for something similar in 5.7x28mm
Extreme Shock - The World's Most Advanced Ammunition
Extreme Shock - The World's Most Advanced Ammunition
Tuesday, November 08, 2005
Monday, November 07, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Subsonic Load?
Posted by Medula Oblongata:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Subsonic Load?: "Im in the business of knowing (and prosecuting those who don't) what AP ammo is, how it is used, and the legal ramifications thereof.
Here is some technical data from my lab manual issued by my agency:
�5.7x28mm weapon system�
FN P90 - firing on the range
SS190 (Armour Piercing) Standard Ball, 31 gr. FMJ, 2,133 fps. RESTRICTED SALE - AGENCY DROP-SHIP ONLY per FNH-USA company policy
L191 (Tracer), 31 gr. Tracer, 2,133 fps. RESTRICTED SALE - AGENCY DROP-SHIP ONLY per FNH-USA company policy
SS192 (Softpoint) Duty/Training, 28 gr. JHP, 2,034 fps. 50 box/2100 case Discontinued
T194 (Duty/Training), 28 gr. JHP, 2,034 fps. 50 box/2100 case Discontinued
SB193 (Subsonic), 55 gr. FMJ, 984 fps. RESTRICTED SALE - AGENCY DROP-SHIP ONLY per FNH-USA company policy
SS196SR, 40 gr. V-Max (Replaces the SS192 round) Not sold where prohibited by law.
Here is a cross sectional cutaway of the SB193 round, it is quite obvious that it lacks ALL attributes that would classify it as AP. But the absolute kicker in this situation is the fact that as it IS a 22 cal projectile, even if it were designed solely for a pistol, it is EXEMPT from the AP law because the AP law states specifically
' (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and
intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25
percent of the total weight of the projectile...' Therefore, no matter how you cut it, it is not regulated BECAUSE IT IS NOT LARGER THAN 22 CALIBER. FN Herstal, as a policy, has decided not to sell to the public. There is no law that would stop them from doing so.
I grow tired of the argument. To quote a holl"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Subsonic Load?: "Im in the business of knowing (and prosecuting those who don't) what AP ammo is, how it is used, and the legal ramifications thereof.
Here is some technical data from my lab manual issued by my agency:
�5.7x28mm weapon system�
FN P90 - firing on the range
SS190 (Armour Piercing) Standard Ball, 31 gr. FMJ, 2,133 fps. RESTRICTED SALE - AGENCY DROP-SHIP ONLY per FNH-USA company policy
L191 (Tracer), 31 gr. Tracer, 2,133 fps. RESTRICTED SALE - AGENCY DROP-SHIP ONLY per FNH-USA company policy
SS192 (Softpoint) Duty/Training, 28 gr. JHP, 2,034 fps. 50 box/2100 case Discontinued
T194 (Duty/Training), 28 gr. JHP, 2,034 fps. 50 box/2100 case Discontinued
SB193 (Subsonic), 55 gr. FMJ, 984 fps. RESTRICTED SALE - AGENCY DROP-SHIP ONLY per FNH-USA company policy
SS196SR, 40 gr. V-Max (Replaces the SS192 round) Not sold where prohibited by law.
Here is a cross sectional cutaway of the SB193 round, it is quite obvious that it lacks ALL attributes that would classify it as AP. But the absolute kicker in this situation is the fact that as it IS a 22 cal projectile, even if it were designed solely for a pistol, it is EXEMPT from the AP law because the AP law states specifically
' (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and
intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25
percent of the total weight of the projectile...' Therefore, no matter how you cut it, it is not regulated BECAUSE IT IS NOT LARGER THAN 22 CALIBER. FN Herstal, as a policy, has decided not to sell to the public. There is no law that would stop them from doing so.
I grow tired of the argument. To quote a holl"
Sunday, November 06, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Mean Green Clean Brass
Posted by Medula Oblongata:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Mean Green Clean Brass: "I have been searching for a way to quickly clean the 5.7x28mm brass. As we all know, with laquer coated cases, dirt and grime tends to stick to the laquer coating more easily than to brass and this is especially true with sizing lubes. Not wanting to get grime and lube all over the place, I set about looking for a way to clean my cases.
I started with dry corn cob in my vibratory tumbler. It sorta worked, but tended to thin the laquer coating to almost nothing within two reloadings and took a very long time. Putting cleaning agents in with the corn cob only exaserbated the mess and the amount of garbage stuck to the cases. I even tried the Iosso liquid case cleaner, which made the cases really brite but also removed about half of the laquer coat. So, after six months of occaisonal experimentation, I decided to put warm water and SIMPLE GREEN in my tumbler... It works EXCEPTIONALLY well without damaging the laquer coating.
If you don't have a wet media tumbler, just put the cases in a container with warm water and Simple Green at a ratio of 10 parts water to 1 part Simple Green for heavy cleaning, or 30 parts water to 1 part SG for lite cleaning. Agitate the cases with your fingers in a sideways fanning motion, and in 2 - 3 minutes, your brass is clean, inside and out. When in the tumbler, even the primer pockets are much cleaner and most of the garbage left falls out when dry with a few taps on a hard surface. It only takes a second to clean the primer pockets on my RCBS case prep center now instead of the usual 4 - 5 seconds before cleaning in Simple Green.
Give it a try, Simple Green WILL NOT harm the brass or laquer coating, and rinses clean with no residue. I have been doing this for a few weeks now and have proven on my Agencie's 300x stereo microscope that repeated"
Follow-up by libertyman:
Have you tried Simple Green in an ultrasonic cleaner? It works amazingly well.
FN FiveseveN Forums - Mean Green Clean Brass: "I have been searching for a way to quickly clean the 5.7x28mm brass. As we all know, with laquer coated cases, dirt and grime tends to stick to the laquer coating more easily than to brass and this is especially true with sizing lubes. Not wanting to get grime and lube all over the place, I set about looking for a way to clean my cases.
I started with dry corn cob in my vibratory tumbler. It sorta worked, but tended to thin the laquer coating to almost nothing within two reloadings and took a very long time. Putting cleaning agents in with the corn cob only exaserbated the mess and the amount of garbage stuck to the cases. I even tried the Iosso liquid case cleaner, which made the cases really brite but also removed about half of the laquer coat. So, after six months of occaisonal experimentation, I decided to put warm water and SIMPLE GREEN in my tumbler... It works EXCEPTIONALLY well without damaging the laquer coating.
If you don't have a wet media tumbler, just put the cases in a container with warm water and Simple Green at a ratio of 10 parts water to 1 part Simple Green for heavy cleaning, or 30 parts water to 1 part SG for lite cleaning. Agitate the cases with your fingers in a sideways fanning motion, and in 2 - 3 minutes, your brass is clean, inside and out. When in the tumbler, even the primer pockets are much cleaner and most of the garbage left falls out when dry with a few taps on a hard surface. It only takes a second to clean the primer pockets on my RCBS case prep center now instead of the usual 4 - 5 seconds before cleaning in Simple Green.
Give it a try, Simple Green WILL NOT harm the brass or laquer coating, and rinses clean with no residue. I have been doing this for a few weeks now and have proven on my Agencie's 300x stereo microscope that repeated"
Follow-up by libertyman:
Have you tried Simple Green in an ultrasonic cleaner? It works amazingly well.
Friday, November 04, 2005
Thursday, November 03, 2005
Dry-fire Practice Magazine - GlockStore.com
I might recycle (modify) one of my 10-round FsN magazines and spray-paint it safety blue or safety orange.
Dry-fire Practice Magazine - GlockStore.com
Dry-fire Practice Magazine - GlockStore.com
Makarov.com - Technical Information wax bullets for target practice
Makarov.com - Technical Information: "Wax Bullets for Indoor Shooting
Want to shoot your Makarov indoors or in the backyard without freaking out the neighbors? Try casting your own wax bullets, then use a primer-only case to shoot them.
Don't Want to Cast Your Own?
We also carry X-ring rubber bullet sets. The only downside is that you need to recover the rubber bullets, clean them and reuse them. See the On-Line Shopping Cart Makarov Page for how to order.
Here's how to mold them:
Get a Lee Makarov bullet mold - Midway carries them and we might look into offering them.
Melt some candle wax from old candle stubs in a double boiler made of an old pot filled partially with water and a tin can as the inside pot. You don't need much and it's more efficient if you only melt a little at a time.
Pour the wax into the mold. If there's a top sprue plate, move it aside and pour directly into the mold. Then move the shield into place while the wax is still liquid. I found I didn't need to lube the molds for the bullets to drop free later.
Wait about 1 minute...this time becomes longer as the mold metal warms up and it takes longer to solidify. An ice water bath will compensate for that and increase your casting rate.
Open the mold and push the bullets out. Be careful not to put too much pressure on them yet or they'll deform. Put them in the fridge to completely cool, especially in hot weather.
Here's how to shoot them:
Take the appropriate brass and run it through the resizer/decapper and reprime the case. Run the case through the belling die being careful not to open it up too far.
Be sure the belling stage did not drop any powder into the case. You want the primer only.
Push the wax bullet into the case. Make sure you don't seat it to far. Since more bullet molds oversize the bullets in anticipation of a bullet s"
Want to shoot your Makarov indoors or in the backyard without freaking out the neighbors? Try casting your own wax bullets, then use a primer-only case to shoot them.
Don't Want to Cast Your Own?
We also carry X-ring rubber bullet sets. The only downside is that you need to recover the rubber bullets, clean them and reuse them. See the On-Line Shopping Cart Makarov Page for how to order.
Here's how to mold them:
Get a Lee Makarov bullet mold - Midway carries them and we might look into offering them.
Melt some candle wax from old candle stubs in a double boiler made of an old pot filled partially with water and a tin can as the inside pot. You don't need much and it's more efficient if you only melt a little at a time.
Pour the wax into the mold. If there's a top sprue plate, move it aside and pour directly into the mold. Then move the shield into place while the wax is still liquid. I found I didn't need to lube the molds for the bullets to drop free later.
Wait about 1 minute...this time becomes longer as the mold metal warms up and it takes longer to solidify. An ice water bath will compensate for that and increase your casting rate.
Open the mold and push the bullets out. Be careful not to put too much pressure on them yet or they'll deform. Put them in the fridge to completely cool, especially in hot weather.
Here's how to shoot them:
Take the appropriate brass and run it through the resizer/decapper and reprime the case. Run the case through the belling die being careful not to open it up too far.
Be sure the belling stage did not drop any powder into the case. You want the primer only.
Push the wax bullet into the case. Make sure you don't seat it to far. Since more bullet molds oversize the bullets in anticipation of a bullet s"
Graybeard Outdoors :: View topic - How do you make a snap cap ?
Graybeard Outdoors :: View topic - How do you make a snap cap ?
Gun Runner:
I made mine out of a pencil erasser. Rounded it to fit with a piece of sand paper, a dab of super glue around the sides and base.
Vietvet:
I just fill the primer pocket with silicone sealer.
gunnut69:
The silicone sealer works better if there's a piece of brass or steel glued over it to better resist the firing pin..
2520:
Fill the primer pocket with hot glue. Lasts a long time. I seat a flat base bullet upside down and flush to the case mouth to give it some heft and to be sure I don't ever put in some powder. I paint the case head with red nail polish to identify it as a snap cap.
BoarHunter:
I agree with the above post telling you need to put some brass (just saw a piece of brass rod or brass screw) to take the blow. Just the hot glue or the silicone will not absorb the striker energy and it will be as dry firing.
Epoxy works better as it is stronger.
Seat a bullet and crimp it hard but drill holes in the case to identify it as a dummy.
Gun Runner:
I made mine out of a pencil erasser. Rounded it to fit with a piece of sand paper, a dab of super glue around the sides and base.
Vietvet:
I just fill the primer pocket with silicone sealer.
gunnut69:
The silicone sealer works better if there's a piece of brass or steel glued over it to better resist the firing pin..
2520:
Fill the primer pocket with hot glue. Lasts a long time. I seat a flat base bullet upside down and flush to the case mouth to give it some heft and to be sure I don't ever put in some powder. I paint the case head with red nail polish to identify it as a snap cap.
BoarHunter:
I agree with the above post telling you need to put some brass (just saw a piece of brass rod or brass screw) to take the blow. Just the hot glue or the silicone will not absorb the striker energy and it will be as dry firing.
Epoxy works better as it is stronger.
Seat a bullet and crimp it hard but drill holes in the case to identify it as a dummy.
Post your Homemade Tools for Guns [Archive] - THR
Posted by Brainx:
Post your Homemade Tools for Guns [Archive] - THR: "I don't have a digital camera but my home-made snap-cap-rod is probably not worthy of a great photo.
At any rate, for all of my milsurp rifles I have a wood dowel rod that I put down the muzzle after cleaning to allow for the dry fire before putting the gun away. On the end of the rod is glued a pencil eraser. Insert the rod, push hard and dry fire.
I also have one for my shot guns. The rod is a piece of rigid copper pipe with a circular piece of hard rubber attached to the end."
Post your Homemade Tools for Guns [Archive] - THR: "I don't have a digital camera but my home-made snap-cap-rod is probably not worthy of a great photo.
At any rate, for all of my milsurp rifles I have a wood dowel rod that I put down the muzzle after cleaning to allow for the dry fire before putting the gun away. On the end of the rod is glued a pencil eraser. Insert the rod, push hard and dry fire.
I also have one for my shot guns. The rod is a piece of rigid copper pipe with a circular piece of hard rubber attached to the end."
HuntAmerica.com: What's your best homemade 'Snap Cap' assembly?
HuntAmerica.com: What's your best homemade 'Snap Cap' assembly?
Some snippets:
Question posed by Ed:
What did you use in place of the primer? Silicone cauking? An eraser tip? What?
How has it held up?
Posted by 41fan:
Buy a stick of 1/4" nylon or delrin (hobby shop) rod.
Run a 1/4x28 die down it.
Drill and tap the case for 1/4x28 and screw the rod in and face it off.
Even if you count the price of tools, a twenty dollar bill will supply snap caps for a lifetime in all calibers bigger than a 32 ACP.
Posted later by 41fan:
Now I have a little more time to explain.
I specified 1/4x28 for the thread. I tried 1/4x20 first but it seemed like it didn't hold up near as long and loosened too easy. (Teflon tape or silicone sealant will hold it in.)
Once you see how the material last you might want to make some really good ones by seating a bullet in the drilled case and squirting in a gob of silicone sealant then screwing in the rod all the way to the bullet or shoulder. They weigh close enough to be feeding dummies and even look good.
I found a translucent nylon at an Army Surplus store about 1970 that lasted better than anything else I’ve seen since. There was only a foot of it…..:(
You’ll know if its really good if its hard to thread in a die. The best material is too hard to dent with a thumbnail and seems to “heal-up” when cut by the die.
Ed:
Sounds good. So I guess the thing to do is to thread the entire rod at once (shouldn't be a big deal, I wouldn't think), seat a bullet, squirt in the silicone caulking (through the drilled/tapped hole), thread in the rod, and snip it off flush with tin snips or whatever. I don't have a drill press or a lathe, but I could probably do a fair job of slightly recessing the rod/primer by carefully using my RCBS Case Prep Center's primer-pocket uniformer. I could probably get pretty exact, actually, by getting some small washers and setting them over the uniformer's cutter.
BW piped in:
I've used old tire sidewalls and taken a hole punch to them. You can trim the plugs to fit for length and just glue them in with emblem cement. When and if they go to pot just punch em out with the decapper and replace them.
booger had a thought:
Russ, another trick, not as sophisticated as Jack's, is to put a dab of AcraGlas gel or, for that matter, epoxy in the primer pocket. This lasts a couple hundred snaps and is easy to replace and repair. Might work as a stopgap while you assemble the Belk's Super-duper Snap Caps (patent pending).
Some snippets:
Question posed by Ed:
What did you use in place of the primer? Silicone cauking? An eraser tip? What?
How has it held up?
Posted by 41fan:
Buy a stick of 1/4" nylon or delrin (hobby shop) rod.
Run a 1/4x28 die down it.
Drill and tap the case for 1/4x28 and screw the rod in and face it off.
Even if you count the price of tools, a twenty dollar bill will supply snap caps for a lifetime in all calibers bigger than a 32 ACP.
Posted later by 41fan:
Now I have a little more time to explain.
I specified 1/4x28 for the thread. I tried 1/4x20 first but it seemed like it didn't hold up near as long and loosened too easy. (Teflon tape or silicone sealant will hold it in.)
Once you see how the material last you might want to make some really good ones by seating a bullet in the drilled case and squirting in a gob of silicone sealant then screwing in the rod all the way to the bullet or shoulder. They weigh close enough to be feeding dummies and even look good.
I found a translucent nylon at an Army Surplus store about 1970 that lasted better than anything else I’ve seen since. There was only a foot of it…..:(
You’ll know if its really good if its hard to thread in a die. The best material is too hard to dent with a thumbnail and seems to “heal-up” when cut by the die.
Ed:
Sounds good. So I guess the thing to do is to thread the entire rod at once (shouldn't be a big deal, I wouldn't think), seat a bullet, squirt in the silicone caulking (through the drilled/tapped hole), thread in the rod, and snip it off flush with tin snips or whatever. I don't have a drill press or a lathe, but I could probably do a fair job of slightly recessing the rod/primer by carefully using my RCBS Case Prep Center's primer-pocket uniformer. I could probably get pretty exact, actually, by getting some small washers and setting them over the uniformer's cutter.
BW piped in:
I've used old tire sidewalls and taken a hole punch to them. You can trim the plugs to fit for length and just glue them in with emblem cement. When and if they go to pot just punch em out with the decapper and replace them.
booger had a thought:
Russ, another trick, not as sophisticated as Jack's, is to put a dab of AcraGlas gel or, for that matter, epoxy in the primer pocket. This lasts a couple hundred snaps and is easy to replace and repair. Might work as a stopgap while you assemble the Belk's Super-duper Snap Caps (patent pending).
Wednesday, November 02, 2005
Grip Reduction & Custom Beavertails
Not 100% applicable, but the general techniques might be applicable.
Brownells - World's Largest Supplier of Firearm Accessories and Gunsmithing Tools
Brownells - World's Largest Supplier of Firearm Accessories and Gunsmithing Tools
Tuesday, November 01, 2005
Monday, October 31, 2005
Singapore Technologies - Squad Support Weapon (SSW)
Singapore Technologies - Squad Support Weapon (SSW): "Squad Support Weapon (SSW)
The SSW was conceptualised specifically for military operations in urban terrain (MOUT). Although the idea of a dual calibre weapon is not new, ST Kinetics' SSW is the only infantry weapon developed in Asia with a Fire Control System (FCS) that fires next generation programmable ammunition like the 40mm Air Bursting Munition (ABM) directly from a handheld system. Weighing only 6kg with a full load 4 x 40mm rounds and 20 x 5.7mm rounds, the SSW is hassle-free, intuitive to use, and short and light enough to be carried and efficiently deployed by individual soldiers even in confined spaces.
Improved Lethality
The SSW has a built-in miniaturised FCS for better accuracy, reliability and improved probability of a first time hit. The FCS features advanced electronics to ensure quick target acquisition and accurate delivery of fire. It helps the user to compute the range using a laser range finder, and programmes ammunition quickly and accurately. It is designed with an automatic ammunition recognition device to help overcome any human errors that might compromise safety and reliability.
In its grenade launcher mode, ST Kinetics' SSW fires existing 40mm low velocity and a new medium velocity round, ABM and conventional grenades. Medium velocity rounds offer users a longer range. Coupled with an FCS, it also offers increased accuracy. This offers an unprecedented lethality in personal defence weapons.
With an ABM capability built into a handheld system, soldiers are now equipped with greater lethality to overcome targets located in areas such as rooftops or windows beyond the reaches of conventional ammunition. The ABM is particularly effective where targets are situated in difficult or closed terrain such as bunkers and caves, as evidenced in r"
The SSW was conceptualised specifically for military operations in urban terrain (MOUT). Although the idea of a dual calibre weapon is not new, ST Kinetics' SSW is the only infantry weapon developed in Asia with a Fire Control System (FCS) that fires next generation programmable ammunition like the 40mm Air Bursting Munition (ABM) directly from a handheld system. Weighing only 6kg with a full load 4 x 40mm rounds and 20 x 5.7mm rounds, the SSW is hassle-free, intuitive to use, and short and light enough to be carried and efficiently deployed by individual soldiers even in confined spaces.
Improved Lethality
The SSW has a built-in miniaturised FCS for better accuracy, reliability and improved probability of a first time hit. The FCS features advanced electronics to ensure quick target acquisition and accurate delivery of fire. It helps the user to compute the range using a laser range finder, and programmes ammunition quickly and accurately. It is designed with an automatic ammunition recognition device to help overcome any human errors that might compromise safety and reliability.
In its grenade launcher mode, ST Kinetics' SSW fires existing 40mm low velocity and a new medium velocity round, ABM and conventional grenades. Medium velocity rounds offer users a longer range. Coupled with an FCS, it also offers increased accuracy. This offers an unprecedented lethality in personal defence weapons.
With an ABM capability built into a handheld system, soldiers are now equipped with greater lethality to overcome targets located in areas such as rooftops or windows beyond the reaches of conventional ammunition. The ABM is particularly effective where targets are situated in difficult or closed terrain such as bunkers and caves, as evidenced in r"
Global Defence Review
Global Defence Review: "In the line of fire
FN Herstal's 5.7 System has proved itself through an extensive series of tests overseen and verified by organisations and authorities from around the world.
Much has been said about the choice of NATO not to take a decision about the standardisation of the new PDW caliber. The story goes back to 1990 with the publication of NATO Doc D296 defining the requests of the personal defence weapon as a replacement for the caliber 9mm, declared obsolete and ineffective in the face of new threats and the emergence of new ballistic protections.
Based on those requirements, FN Herstal launched its 5.7 System, comprising a submachine gun - the P90� - and a pistol - the Five-seveN�. Both of these shoot a revolutionary cartridge of 5.7x28mm calibre - the SS190, defeating the new CRISAT target defined by NATO. The inherent qualities of this system gained it immediate interest all over the world, particularly from special forces.
In 1999, other competitors had come on the scene such as the 4.6x30mm caliber. Blocked in its decision process due to a change of standardisation rules, NATO decided to launch a competition between interested candidates. The first tests were made in the UK but the main evaluation was performed in France in 2002 by the ETBS (where six-month tests, comprising 22 different tests took place) and by a quick reaction team (QRT) designed by Nato NAAG in 2003.
Although the QRT clearly mentioned its preferences for the 5.7x28mm caliber, the standardisation process seems to be definitively interrupted.
Brief analysis of ETBS testing
ETBS testing has underlined the following positive points:
Greater effectiveness of the 5.7mm calibre against unprotected targets and equal against protected targets; energy deposit much higher for the 5.7mm
Level of"
FN Herstal's 5.7 System has proved itself through an extensive series of tests overseen and verified by organisations and authorities from around the world.
Much has been said about the choice of NATO not to take a decision about the standardisation of the new PDW caliber. The story goes back to 1990 with the publication of NATO Doc D296 defining the requests of the personal defence weapon as a replacement for the caliber 9mm, declared obsolete and ineffective in the face of new threats and the emergence of new ballistic protections.
Based on those requirements, FN Herstal launched its 5.7 System, comprising a submachine gun - the P90� - and a pistol - the Five-seveN�. Both of these shoot a revolutionary cartridge of 5.7x28mm calibre - the SS190, defeating the new CRISAT target defined by NATO. The inherent qualities of this system gained it immediate interest all over the world, particularly from special forces.
In 1999, other competitors had come on the scene such as the 4.6x30mm caliber. Blocked in its decision process due to a change of standardisation rules, NATO decided to launch a competition between interested candidates. The first tests were made in the UK but the main evaluation was performed in France in 2002 by the ETBS (where six-month tests, comprising 22 different tests took place) and by a quick reaction team (QRT) designed by Nato NAAG in 2003.
Although the QRT clearly mentioned its preferences for the 5.7x28mm caliber, the standardisation process seems to be definitively interrupted.
Brief analysis of ETBS testing
ETBS testing has underlined the following positive points:
Greater effectiveness of the 5.7mm calibre against unprotected targets and equal against protected targets; energy deposit much higher for the 5.7mm
Level of"
5.7x28 mm@Everything2.com
http://everything2.org/index.pl?node=5.7x28%20mm: "Fabrique Nationale was one of two companies (the other being Giat of France) approached in the mid-eighties by NATO planners to solve two distinct problems which arose with military small arms. The first was the ability to arm soldiers whose mission objectives called for the use of both semi-automatic pistols and select-fire assault rifles. The second was the need to combat the increasing proliferation of Level II Kevlar vests and PASGT helmets.
In the past, when a soldier went into a special operations mission, ve often carried an assault rifle utilizing 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and a sidearm which used anything from 9mm to .45 ACP. This was a fine setup, but it required carrying two different kinds of ammunition, and the weight and size of the other ammunition put a limit on how much could be carried. Further, if the primary weapon was a 9mm based submachine gun, such as a Heckler and Koch MP5, they would lose the armor-penetrating ability of the 5.56 NATO rounds.
Fabrique Nationale sought to solve these problems by developing a round which possessed excellent ballistics, small size, and would be equally effective when chambered in a submachine gun or pistol. They answered NATO with the 5.7x28 mm round. It was first demonstrated in 1995 with the FN P90 submachine gun, and later in the Five-seveN pistol.
There are currently three varieties of the 5.7x28 mm round. The raw technical specs of the round are as follows.
SS190 - Standard
Bullet Type - FMJ
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grains
Muzzle velocity - 715 m/s for P90, 650 m/s for Five-seveN
Penetration - 48 layers of kevlar at 200 m
L191 - Tracer (color coded red)
Bullet Type - Tracer
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grain"
In the past, when a soldier went into a special operations mission, ve often carried an assault rifle utilizing 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and a sidearm which used anything from 9mm to .45 ACP. This was a fine setup, but it required carrying two different kinds of ammunition, and the weight and size of the other ammunition put a limit on how much could be carried. Further, if the primary weapon was a 9mm based submachine gun, such as a Heckler and Koch MP5, they would lose the armor-penetrating ability of the 5.56 NATO rounds.
Fabrique Nationale sought to solve these problems by developing a round which possessed excellent ballistics, small size, and would be equally effective when chambered in a submachine gun or pistol. They answered NATO with the 5.7x28 mm round. It was first demonstrated in 1995 with the FN P90 submachine gun, and later in the Five-seveN pistol.
There are currently three varieties of the 5.7x28 mm round. The raw technical specs of the round are as follows.
SS190 - Standard
Bullet Type - FMJ
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grains
Muzzle velocity - 715 m/s for P90, 650 m/s for Five-seveN
Penetration - 48 layers of kevlar at 200 m
L191 - Tracer (color coded red)
Bullet Type - Tracer
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grain"
Special weapons for counter-terrorist units - Jane's International Policing Issues
Special weapons for counter-terrorist units - Jane's International Policing Issues: "New designs are constantly tested by CT units, and among the more promising are the Austrian Steyr TMP, already adopted by the Italian GIS, and the Belgian FN 5.7mm P90, currently in service with the US Navy's SEAL teams and the Turkish VIP protection details. "
Friday, October 28, 2005
FN Five SeveN Range Report Part I - 1911Forum
Posted by bamawrkx:
FN Five SeveN Range Report Part I - 1911Forum: "FN Five SeveN Range Report Part I
I purchased an FN 5.7 today and decided to post some thoughts. This is part one as I have not fired it yet.
The 5.7 comes in a neat little kit with 3 mags, cleaning kit, gun, sight adjustment tool, and cable lock. Also included is a letter that states that it is FN policy for the 5.7 to be restricted to LEO only and requests information about the purchaser. The letter states that FN intends on following up on the guns sales to determine if the dealers and distributors are following protocol. For our purposes I will refrain from disclosing my status or the source of the firearm.
First impression is this a very neat gun. Clean lines, extremely light, and well thought out. The model I have includes the single action trigger pack and adjustable sights. The trigger has creep but has a nice say 4+# break. accuracy will not be hindered by the trigger. The sights are also very good with the front sight being taller than most due to the step down in the frame.
The ambi safety is crisp and simple to operate. You can use the strong side safety lever as an indexing point while keeping your finger off the trigger and disengage the safety as you acquire your target.
Field stripping is similar to the Glock family but you only need to press to the rear a single button while keeping the slide partially to the rear, unlike the two points you must pull down at the same time on a Glock.
The gun is totally covered in 'plastic' if you will allow me to call it that. The slide (see picture) is thin steel but has a plastic covering. This contributes to the clean lines and good feel of the gun, but the slides covering is not evenly applied. Look at the left and right side pictures of the gun. You can see the gap between the slide and fra"
FN Five SeveN Range Report Part I - 1911Forum: "FN Five SeveN Range Report Part I
I purchased an FN 5.7 today and decided to post some thoughts. This is part one as I have not fired it yet.
The 5.7 comes in a neat little kit with 3 mags, cleaning kit, gun, sight adjustment tool, and cable lock. Also included is a letter that states that it is FN policy for the 5.7 to be restricted to LEO only and requests information about the purchaser. The letter states that FN intends on following up on the guns sales to determine if the dealers and distributors are following protocol. For our purposes I will refrain from disclosing my status or the source of the firearm.
First impression is this a very neat gun. Clean lines, extremely light, and well thought out. The model I have includes the single action trigger pack and adjustable sights. The trigger has creep but has a nice say 4+# break. accuracy will not be hindered by the trigger. The sights are also very good with the front sight being taller than most due to the step down in the frame.
The ambi safety is crisp and simple to operate. You can use the strong side safety lever as an indexing point while keeping your finger off the trigger and disengage the safety as you acquire your target.
Field stripping is similar to the Glock family but you only need to press to the rear a single button while keeping the slide partially to the rear, unlike the two points you must pull down at the same time on a Glock.
The gun is totally covered in 'plastic' if you will allow me to call it that. The slide (see picture) is thin steel but has a plastic covering. This contributes to the clean lines and good feel of the gun, but the slides covering is not evenly applied. Look at the left and right side pictures of the gun. You can see the gap between the slide and fra"
Benchrest Central Forums - Centerfire version of a 22LR?
Posted by Asa Yam:
Benchrest Central Forums - Centerfire version of a 22LR?: "The .22 Cooper Centerfire Magnum falls between the .22 WMR and .22 Hornet. Loading data can be seen at
http://www.accuratepowder.com/loadd...ndard_22cal.htm then clicking on the link for the .22 CCM
I think that a smaller case capacity and a shorter casing would help to further lower the MV. Something like a necked down .25 ACP (.25 Auto)casing or a shortened 5.7x28mm (FN PDW/Five seveN cartridge - see http://www.impactguns.com/store/10700014BX.html). Note that the 5.7x28 has an even lower MV than the .22 CCM - but still a little higher than that for a .22 LR. The 5.7x28 also appears to have a proprietary bolt face - .305' (close to the .302' of the .25 Auto). The OAL of the 5.7x28 casing is in the neighborhood of 1.133'
It might be easier to shorten a .221 Fireball casing. Brass is easier to find, and suitable rifle bolt faces are more available."
Benchrest Central Forums - Centerfire version of a 22LR?: "The .22 Cooper Centerfire Magnum falls between the .22 WMR and .22 Hornet. Loading data can be seen at
http://www.accuratepowder.com/loadd...ndard_22cal.htm then clicking on the link for the .22 CCM
I think that a smaller case capacity and a shorter casing would help to further lower the MV. Something like a necked down .25 ACP (.25 Auto)casing or a shortened 5.7x28mm (FN PDW/Five seveN cartridge - see http://www.impactguns.com/store/10700014BX.html). Note that the 5.7x28 has an even lower MV than the .22 CCM - but still a little higher than that for a .22 LR. The 5.7x28 also appears to have a proprietary bolt face - .305' (close to the .302' of the .25 Auto). The OAL of the 5.7x28 casing is in the neighborhood of 1.133'
It might be easier to shorten a .221 Fireball casing. Brass is easier to find, and suitable rifle bolt faces are more available."
Thursday, October 27, 2005
B&B Enterprise
Another Glock scope rail, but they're rumored to have one in the works for the Springfield XD also.
B&B Enterprise
B&B Enterprise
Wednesday, October 26, 2005
MEDICAL DEPARTMENT, UNITED STATES ARMY - WOUND BALLISTICS
Contents
MEDICAL DEPARTMENT, UNITED STATES ARMY
WOUND BALLISTICS
Prepared and published under the direction ofLieutenant General LEONARD D. HEATONThe Surgeon General, United States Army
Editor in Chief
Colonel JAMES BOYD COATES, Jr., MC
Editor for Wound Ballistics
Major JAMES C. BEYER, MC
OFFICE OF THE SURGEON GENERALDEPARTMENT OF THE ARMYWASHINGTON, D.C., 1962
MEDICAL DEPARTMENT, UNITED STATES ARMY
WOUND BALLISTICS
Prepared and published under the direction ofLieutenant General LEONARD D. HEATONThe Surgeon General, United States Army
Editor in Chief
Colonel JAMES BOYD COATES, Jr., MC
Editor for Wound Ballistics
Major JAMES C. BEYER, MC
OFFICE OF THE SURGEON GENERALDEPARTMENT OF THE ARMYWASHINGTON, D.C., 1962
FN FiveseveN Forums - Detailed dissassembly
Posted by RobR:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Detailed dissassembly: "Detailed dissassembly
I couldn't resist the urge to improve the trigger so I took my USG apart last night
Here's how:
1. Remove fire control module- It is held in place by the second pin from the rear of the pistol. To remove the pin gently lift on on retaining/slide release spring with a credit card something else very thin and push the pin out from right to left. Pull the module up and out out, very little force is required.
2. Note the relationship of the sear and firing pin safety spring. Release tension from FPS spring and remove. Lift out FPS lever. Lift/remove sear pin, sear and spring will slide out of bottom of module.
3. Remove hammer by releasing tension(use your fingernail) on spring and removing the small pin it rests on. Remove hammer pin and spring.
It should take about five minutes.
Reassemble in reverse order. NOTE. when re inserting the module into the frame be sure the sear pin spring engages the frame properly or you will not have spring tension on the sear(you can guess how I figured that out!) You should feel the spring tension when re inserting the module.
This pistol is very easy to strip and assemble. Alot easier than the Sigs or USP I worked on.
I polished just the sear/hammer engagement.
Before- 5.3 lbs gritty
After- 4.6 lbs very smooth
Note I wrote polish- DO NOT REMOVE METAL.
I'll go back and polish all of the mating surfaces tonight. I'm expecting about a 4lb pull that is super smooth.
Hope this helps anyone who's interested
Rob"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Detailed dissassembly: "Detailed dissassembly
I couldn't resist the urge to improve the trigger so I took my USG apart last night
Here's how:
1. Remove fire control module- It is held in place by the second pin from the rear of the pistol. To remove the pin gently lift on on retaining/slide release spring with a credit card something else very thin and push the pin out from right to left. Pull the module up and out out, very little force is required.
2. Note the relationship of the sear and firing pin safety spring. Release tension from FPS spring and remove. Lift out FPS lever. Lift/remove sear pin, sear and spring will slide out of bottom of module.
3. Remove hammer by releasing tension(use your fingernail) on spring and removing the small pin it rests on. Remove hammer pin and spring.
It should take about five minutes.
Reassemble in reverse order. NOTE. when re inserting the module into the frame be sure the sear pin spring engages the frame properly or you will not have spring tension on the sear(you can guess how I figured that out!) You should feel the spring tension when re inserting the module.
This pistol is very easy to strip and assemble. Alot easier than the Sigs or USP I worked on.
I polished just the sear/hammer engagement.
Before- 5.3 lbs gritty
After- 4.6 lbs very smooth
Note I wrote polish- DO NOT REMOVE METAL.
I'll go back and polish all of the mating surfaces tonight. I'm expecting about a 4lb pull that is super smooth.
Hope this helps anyone who's interested
Rob"
Tuesday, October 25, 2005
Monday, October 24, 2005
Officer Safety Items
A bit of hype in the actual description.
Officer Safety Items: "BODY ARMOR DEFEATING HANDGUN
On 10/15/04, the Trumbull Police Dept seized a FN Herstal pistol model #57 in 5.7mm caliber loaded with 5.7 x 28mm rounds. This is a relatively new caliber which was specifically designed to defeat body armor, according to the company's website. The 5.7x28 mm round currently comes in four variants, which are the ss190ap, the l191 tracer, the SB sub-sonic and the ss1902 duty/training ball ammunition. The ss190ap ammunition is advertised as being able to penetrate 48 layers of Kevlar at 50 meters when fired from the model 57 pistol; however tests revealed that the ss192 training ammo also penetrated one panel of a Threat Level 2 vest and nearly exited the second panel at a range of seven yards. A recent article in a police magazine indicated that the ss190ap round penetrated completely through 2 overlapped Threat Level 2 vests. Sales of this weapon in the U.S. have increased tremendously according to the manufacturer.
Description:This may be the closet thing to a laser gun! It's the new Five-SeveN IOM from FN Herstal. It features a new caliber 5.7X28mm SS192 which reaches over 2100FPS. FN says this gun has little or no recoil so you can stay on target. The IOM is a single action and has an ambidextrous safety, fully adjustable rear sight, three 10 rd mags, and cleaning kit. It�s made of a very light polymer and easy to take down for cleaning.
Information provided by Craig Furey. "
Officer Safety Items: "BODY ARMOR DEFEATING HANDGUN
On 10/15/04, the Trumbull Police Dept seized a FN Herstal pistol model #57 in 5.7mm caliber loaded with 5.7 x 28mm rounds. This is a relatively new caliber which was specifically designed to defeat body armor, according to the company's website. The 5.7x28 mm round currently comes in four variants, which are the ss190ap, the l191 tracer, the SB sub-sonic and the ss1902 duty/training ball ammunition. The ss190ap ammunition is advertised as being able to penetrate 48 layers of Kevlar at 50 meters when fired from the model 57 pistol; however tests revealed that the ss192 training ammo also penetrated one panel of a Threat Level 2 vest and nearly exited the second panel at a range of seven yards. A recent article in a police magazine indicated that the ss190ap round penetrated completely through 2 overlapped Threat Level 2 vests. Sales of this weapon in the U.S. have increased tremendously according to the manufacturer.
Description:This may be the closet thing to a laser gun! It's the new Five-SeveN IOM from FN Herstal. It features a new caliber 5.7X28mm SS192 which reaches over 2100FPS. FN says this gun has little or no recoil so you can stay on target. The IOM is a single action and has an ambidextrous safety, fully adjustable rear sight, three 10 rd mags, and cleaning kit. It�s made of a very light polymer and easy to take down for cleaning.
Information provided by Craig Furey. "
ArniesAirsoft: Marushin XM177E2 Plug-Fire Review
ArniesAirsoft: Marushin XM177E2 Plug-Fire Review: "Marushin XM177E2 Plug-Fire Review
(Factory version)"
(Factory version)"
Saturday, October 22, 2005
Friday, October 21, 2005
Shoot-out at Blackwater
Shoot-out at Blackwater: "COMPLETE LINEUP
Along with the featured HV-40 and M2QCB, FNH gave our evaluators opportunities to test-fire a broad assortment of weapons from the company's lineup. The ever-popular P-90 subgun and Five-seveN pistol, both of which feed on 5.7-by-28mm ammo, earned typical accolades from the evaluators (see last year's Shoot-out report and video). The P-90, which carries a 50-round magazine atop the weapon, 'should be made available to ALL aircrew members and anyone else who deals with limited cockpit or turret space,' an evaluator noted.
The P-90 'is a great weapon for military vehicle crew members operating in tight quarters,' one of his colleagues echoed. 'The small, lightweight 5.7 rounds are extremely lethal and can defeat Class IIIA body armor out to 200 meters.'
A third evaluator � a regular at past Shoot-outs � had this to say about the P-90: 'For the past several years this weapon has been continually improved and received high praise. Based on the problems we're having in Iraq with people in vehicles trying to defend themselves during close-quarters ambushes, one has to wonder: When will the Army shed its 'white collar welfare' mind-set and seriously look at this weapon?'"
Along with the featured HV-40 and M2QCB, FNH gave our evaluators opportunities to test-fire a broad assortment of weapons from the company's lineup. The ever-popular P-90 subgun and Five-seveN pistol, both of which feed on 5.7-by-28mm ammo, earned typical accolades from the evaluators (see last year's Shoot-out report and video). The P-90, which carries a 50-round magazine atop the weapon, 'should be made available to ALL aircrew members and anyone else who deals with limited cockpit or turret space,' an evaluator noted.
The P-90 'is a great weapon for military vehicle crew members operating in tight quarters,' one of his colleagues echoed. 'The small, lightweight 5.7 rounds are extremely lethal and can defeat Class IIIA body armor out to 200 meters.'
A third evaluator � a regular at past Shoot-outs � had this to say about the P-90: 'For the past several years this weapon has been continually improved and received high praise. Based on the problems we're having in Iraq with people in vehicles trying to defend themselves during close-quarters ambushes, one has to wonder: When will the Army shed its 'white collar welfare' mind-set and seriously look at this weapon?'"
Yep, that's it
[Some of the facts/details aren't quite right, here - beware.]
Yep, that's it: "While HECKLER&KOCH will make us wait at least until next year to see the first prototypes of civilian-grade G36 and XM8 rifles, FN of Belgium is already giving us what we want, with the PS-90 and the P-2000.
The PS-90 is a sporter version of the P90 submachinegun. It will take the same .5'8x42mm-FN cartridge, from the same P90 clear plastic 52-rounder magazines; the SS193 ammo, with metal ball and tungsten core penetrator, being an armor-piercing special cartridge, is forbidden by law in many countries, including USA and Italy; FN has already intention to throw on the civilian market the SB193 cartridge (Ball), which has no tungsten penetrator.
The PS-90 is basically a P90 submachinegun with semiauto fire capabilities only and a 12' barrel. Basically it looks like a P90 submachinegun with a sound suppressor attached, isn't it? For Italian firearms owners: should the PS-90 hit our shores, it would be short enough to be catalogued and sold as a PISTOL, not as a rifle; thus, it would have no 'maximum' ammo capacity (which is 10 rounds for long arms in Italy). This means that we'd be able to sport standard P90 52-rounder magazines.
The P-2000 is the sporter version of the FN F2000 modular bull-pup assault rifle. It has no selective-fire capabilities, fires the .5'56x45mm-NATO ammunition, feeding from STANAG-compliant magazines. The weapon will be equipped with MIL-STD Picatinny upper rail, and standard iron sights. It will be sold with a 4x tunnel optic lenses sight; the electronic FCS (Fire Control System) developed and provided by MEOPTA Contravers for the military F2000 is unlikely to be sold to civilians, due to the high cost, but its protective plastic shell might be, and it is compatible with the use of the standard 4x optic sight, so that anybody will be able to use them an"
Yep, that's it: "While HECKLER&KOCH will make us wait at least until next year to see the first prototypes of civilian-grade G36 and XM8 rifles, FN of Belgium is already giving us what we want, with the PS-90 and the P-2000.
The PS-90 is a sporter version of the P90 submachinegun. It will take the same .5'8x42mm-FN cartridge, from the same P90 clear plastic 52-rounder magazines; the SS193 ammo, with metal ball and tungsten core penetrator, being an armor-piercing special cartridge, is forbidden by law in many countries, including USA and Italy; FN has already intention to throw on the civilian market the SB193 cartridge (Ball), which has no tungsten penetrator.
The PS-90 is basically a P90 submachinegun with semiauto fire capabilities only and a 12' barrel. Basically it looks like a P90 submachinegun with a sound suppressor attached, isn't it? For Italian firearms owners: should the PS-90 hit our shores, it would be short enough to be catalogued and sold as a PISTOL, not as a rifle; thus, it would have no 'maximum' ammo capacity (which is 10 rounds for long arms in Italy). This means that we'd be able to sport standard P90 52-rounder magazines.
The P-2000 is the sporter version of the FN F2000 modular bull-pup assault rifle. It has no selective-fire capabilities, fires the .5'56x45mm-NATO ammunition, feeding from STANAG-compliant magazines. The weapon will be equipped with MIL-STD Picatinny upper rail, and standard iron sights. It will be sold with a 4x tunnel optic lenses sight; the electronic FCS (Fire Control System) developed and provided by MEOPTA Contravers for the military F2000 is unlikely to be sold to civilians, due to the high cost, but its protective plastic shell might be, and it is compatible with the use of the standard 4x optic sight, so that anybody will be able to use them an"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Scope rail for 5-7 is AVAILABLE (by modification)
Originally posted by Medula Oblongata:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Scope rail for 5-7 is AVAILABLE (by modification): "Scope rail for 5-7 is AVAILABLE (by modification)
I just bought a scope rail for my Walther P-22 pistol. Looking at it when I opened the package I thought it would fit on my 5-7. IT DOES ***as long as you remove the front sight***.
To remove the front sight place the pistol on your workbench CUSHIONED BY A TOWEL FOLDED INTO QUARTERS. Ensure that the pistol in on its right side, so that the left side is up. Using a BRASS DRIFT PIN drive out the pin on the slide near the front of the rear site. USE ONLY BRASS AS STEEL WILL MAR METAL AND BRASS IS SOFT ENOUGH IT WILL NOT. Unscrew the rear site and remove screw and spring. Lift the slide cover up from the rear and slide towards the front sight. Remove the loaded chamber indicator and spring.
Remove the slide from the gun. In a vise WITH CUSHIONED JAWS (wood, rubber, etc) clamp the slide on either side and using a BRASS PUNCH remove the front site assembly. Reinstall the slide cover the reverse of removal.
When your 5-7 is reassembled put the scope rail together with ALL pieces including the spacer at the rear. The spacer is polymer as is the slide cover and I believe that with the addition of molybendmen dry lubricants (or graphite) there will be no damage to the cover and perhaps only a little wear.
I did this this afternoon and put my holosite on my 5-7. It works fine.
Even if the slide cover is worn, replacements are available from FN's repair department at a reasonable cost.
__________________
Fire at Will??? Which one is He???
Last edited by Medula Oblongata : 10-18-2005 at 01:05 PM. "
FN FiveseveN Forums - Scope rail for 5-7 is AVAILABLE (by modification): "Scope rail for 5-7 is AVAILABLE (by modification)
I just bought a scope rail for my Walther P-22 pistol. Looking at it when I opened the package I thought it would fit on my 5-7. IT DOES ***as long as you remove the front sight***.
To remove the front sight place the pistol on your workbench CUSHIONED BY A TOWEL FOLDED INTO QUARTERS. Ensure that the pistol in on its right side, so that the left side is up. Using a BRASS DRIFT PIN drive out the pin on the slide near the front of the rear site. USE ONLY BRASS AS STEEL WILL MAR METAL AND BRASS IS SOFT ENOUGH IT WILL NOT. Unscrew the rear site and remove screw and spring. Lift the slide cover up from the rear and slide towards the front sight. Remove the loaded chamber indicator and spring.
Remove the slide from the gun. In a vise WITH CUSHIONED JAWS (wood, rubber, etc) clamp the slide on either side and using a BRASS PUNCH remove the front site assembly. Reinstall the slide cover the reverse of removal.
When your 5-7 is reassembled put the scope rail together with ALL pieces including the spacer at the rear. The spacer is polymer as is the slide cover and I believe that with the addition of molybendmen dry lubricants (or graphite) there will be no damage to the cover and perhaps only a little wear.
I did this this afternoon and put my holosite on my 5-7. It works fine.
Even if the slide cover is worn, replacements are available from FN's repair department at a reasonable cost.
__________________
Fire at Will??? Which one is He???
Last edited by Medula Oblongata : 10-18-2005 at 01:05 PM. "
Thursday, October 20, 2005
Robotic sentry gun - hack a day - www.hackaday.com _
Robotic sentry gun - hack a day - www.hackaday.com _: "Robotic sentry gun
Posted Sep 21, 2005, 9:30 AM ET by Eliot Phillips
related entries: robots hacks
Reader [aaron rasmussen] and his brother Ezra built this awesome robotic sentry gun. The gun is an airsoft replica of an FN P90 and fires 6mm BBs. Pan and tilt are controlled by two hobby servos using a simple controller. Aaron wrote custom software to watch the usb webcam and track targets. There is a video on the site of it being tested� on Ezra. Where are hordes of aliens when you need them?"
Posted Sep 21, 2005, 9:30 AM ET by Eliot Phillips
related entries: robots hacks
Reader [aaron rasmussen] and his brother Ezra built this awesome robotic sentry gun. The gun is an airsoft replica of an FN P90 and fires 6mm BBs. Pan and tilt are controlled by two hobby servos using a simple controller. Aaron wrote custom software to watch the usb webcam and track targets. There is a video on the site of it being tested� on Ezra. Where are hordes of aliens when you need them?"
Monday, October 17, 2005
Imago Metrics:Tactical weapon-mounted illumination devices
Imago Metrics:Tactical weapon-mounted illumination devices
Great side by side comparison of various tactical illuminators
Great side by side comparison of various tactical illuminators
Monday, October 10, 2005
Friday, October 07, 2005
Sniper Country PX Web Store -
Sniper Country PX Web Store -: "
View DetailsFN Herstal - SS196 SR Ammo, 50 rd
SS196SR40 gr. V-Max, 1650 fps. 50 rd boxCurrently on Back order. NOT IN STOCK AT THIS TIME.Introducing the latest ammunition developed for the 5.7x28mm system, the SS196SR. This ne... MoreSCPX: $23.80
View DetailsFN Herstal - SS195 L.F. Ammo, 50 rd
SS195 L.F.BACK IN STOCK! PLEASE CALL if ordering OVER TEN boxes per order.Hollow Point. 2034 fps. Made in Belgium.Lead Free Primer. 50 rd boxSmall amount in stock, Please chec... MoreSCPX: $35.00"
View DetailsFN Herstal - SS196 SR Ammo, 50 rd
SS196SR40 gr. V-Max, 1650 fps. 50 rd boxCurrently on Back order. NOT IN STOCK AT THIS TIME.Introducing the latest ammunition developed for the 5.7x28mm system, the SS196SR. This ne... MoreSCPX: $23.80
View DetailsFN Herstal - SS195 L.F. Ammo, 50 rd
SS195 L.F.BACK IN STOCK! PLEASE CALL if ordering OVER TEN boxes per order.Hollow Point. 2034 fps. Made in Belgium.Lead Free Primer. 50 rd boxSmall amount in stock, Please chec... MoreSCPX: $35.00"
Wednesday, September 28, 2005
Discount Gun Sales
Discount Gun Sales: "
ModelDescriptionBasic
Five-SevenUSG, 5.7 x 28, 5' barrel, Adjustable Sights, three 20rd Magazines$879"
ModelDescriptionBasic
Five-SevenUSG, 5.7 x 28, 5' barrel, Adjustable Sights, three 20rd Magazines$879"
Discount Gun Sales
Discount Gun Sales: "SS196 AMMUNITION (5.7x28)
ModelDescriptionBasic
SS196* This is the newest ammunition from FN Herstal chambered in 5.7 x 28.
* Case of 500 rounds
$249"
ModelDescriptionBasic
SS196* This is the newest ammunition from FN Herstal chambered in 5.7 x 28.
* Case of 500 rounds
$249"
Wound Ballistics Review - Journal of the International Wound Ballistics Association
Wound Ballistics Review - Journal of the International Wound Ballistics Association: "Wound Profile of the 5.7x28mm FN Cartridge (SS 190) Fired from the FN P90 Submachine Gun
Dean B. Dahlstrom, RCMP Forensic Laboratory, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Kramer D. Powley, RCMP Forensic Laboratory, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Cst. Gordon, Pope, Regina Police Service, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada"
Dean B. Dahlstrom, RCMP Forensic Laboratory, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Kramer D. Powley, RCMP Forensic Laboratory, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Cst. Gordon, Pope, Regina Police Service, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada"
Monday, September 26, 2005
The Coyote Gods Forums: New toy: .22 K-hornet semi-auto PISTOL !
Not quite accurate, but some interesting discussion and photos.
The Coyote Gods Forums: New toy: .22 K-hornet semi-auto PISTOL !
The Coyote Gods Forums: New toy: .22 K-hornet semi-auto PISTOL !
Sunday, September 25, 2005
space gun.
space gun.: "space gun.
FN FiveseveN
Designed as a companion piece to the FN P90 submachine gun, the Fiveseven is chambered in 5.7x28mm. This caliber moves a .22-caliber bullet out of the barrel at 2100 feet per second, offering rifle velocity out of a pistol. This caliber was created by FN for the new NATO PDW (Personal Defense Weapon) concept, a design specification being the ability to punch through NATO standard body armor at 150 meters.
The FiveseveN is very lightweight, has very little recoil, and holds twenty rounds in the magazine. It represents a radical new approach to personal defense weapons, and the established gun writers out there have split opinions on the 5.7x28 system. Some deride it as worthless, claiming that the 5.7x28 has the terminal ballistics of a .22 Magnum at best, and some claim the cartridge to be the best thing since the invention of the metallic cartridge.
As in all things, opinions are worth exactly what you pay for them. In the end, the street performance of the 5.7x28 will be the final word on the issue, and so far, the round has acquitted itself well. During the Japanese embassy crisis in Peru, several terrorists were eliminated through their Level III body armor, including the ring leader, who expired after a single round to the chest. Several SWAT shootings with the round have all resulted in one-shot stops. It seems that the 5.7x28 largely lives up to FN's claims.
I like this pistol because it combines low recoil and high capacity with excellent barrier and terminal performance, all in a lightweight and corrosion-resistant package. It's a whole new and interesting approach to personal weaponry, and as such deserves merit for sheer ingenuity. "
FN FiveseveN
Designed as a companion piece to the FN P90 submachine gun, the Fiveseven is chambered in 5.7x28mm. This caliber moves a .22-caliber bullet out of the barrel at 2100 feet per second, offering rifle velocity out of a pistol. This caliber was created by FN for the new NATO PDW (Personal Defense Weapon) concept, a design specification being the ability to punch through NATO standard body armor at 150 meters.
The FiveseveN is very lightweight, has very little recoil, and holds twenty rounds in the magazine. It represents a radical new approach to personal defense weapons, and the established gun writers out there have split opinions on the 5.7x28 system. Some deride it as worthless, claiming that the 5.7x28 has the terminal ballistics of a .22 Magnum at best, and some claim the cartridge to be the best thing since the invention of the metallic cartridge.
As in all things, opinions are worth exactly what you pay for them. In the end, the street performance of the 5.7x28 will be the final word on the issue, and so far, the round has acquitted itself well. During the Japanese embassy crisis in Peru, several terrorists were eliminated through their Level III body armor, including the ring leader, who expired after a single round to the chest. Several SWAT shootings with the round have all resulted in one-shot stops. It seems that the 5.7x28 largely lives up to FN's claims.
I like this pistol because it combines low recoil and high capacity with excellent barrier and terminal performance, all in a lightweight and corrosion-resistant package. It's a whole new and interesting approach to personal weaponry, and as such deserves merit for sheer ingenuity. "
Friday, September 23, 2005
WTS: Post 86 FN P90 with Suppressor $3795 *LINK* *PIC*
WTS: Post 86 FN P90 with Suppressor $3795 *LINK* *PIC*: "WTS: Post 86 FN P90 with Suppressor $3795 *LINK* *PIC*
Posted By: Josh at Clyde Armory
Date: 6/7/04 13:55
LIKE NEW FN P90 with FN Silencer (5 available). Factory installed mil-spec laser, this laser is part of the internal frame of the weapon and cannot be removed, no wires, no mounts, very rare upgrade. Safe-Semi-Full Auto trigger group. 5.7 X 28mm caliber. Subsonic ammo available. Weapons are still in the agency and available for immidiate direct transfer to your FFL/SOT. (FNXXX121, FNXXX983, FNXXX127, FNXXX250, FNXXX251)
Clyde Armory Website "
Posted By: Josh at Clyde Armory
Date: 6/7/04 13:55
LIKE NEW FN P90 with FN Silencer (5 available). Factory installed mil-spec laser, this laser is part of the internal frame of the weapon and cannot be removed, no wires, no mounts, very rare upgrade. Safe-Semi-Full Auto trigger group. 5.7 X 28mm caliber. Subsonic ammo available. Weapons are still in the agency and available for immidiate direct transfer to your FFL/SOT. (FNXXX121, FNXXX983, FNXXX127, FNXXX250, FNXXX251)
Clyde Armory Website "
EOTech Inc. | Holographic Weapons Systems
EOTech Inc. Holographic Weapons Systems: "Additional MountsVarious other mounting platforms are supported for the HK, MP5, UMP45, G36, the Sig 550, FN P90 or FAL and Remington, Benelli, and Mossberg tactical shotguns. Each of these platforms allow access to iron sights (with sight mounted), maintenance of critical cheekweld position, and achieve maximum peripheral vision for the operator."
AN OVERVIEW OF THE FN P90 SUBMACHINE by Tony L. Jones
fnp90: "AN OVERVIEW OF THE FN P90 SUBMACHINE
By Tony L. Jones
Times are changing very quickly for police agencies. Criminals today are more determined, not afraid of the judicial system, better armed, and well equipped with items such as personal body armor, radios, and protective (gas) masks. As a result, agencies are expressing the need for lightweight, compact, ambidextrous, and easy to use weapons which fire a cartridge that will be effective against the modern criminal, but not pose the liability risk of a rifle. FN Herstal took notice and developed a weapon system called the FN P90 Submachine Gun to address all of these issues.
This weapon system may be classified as a Personal Defense Weapon (PDW), which is typically a military designation, or as an entry/containment weapon useful in the law enforcement arena.
I seized the opportunity to observe, handle and fire the FN P90 at the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors (IALEFI) Regional Conference held in Dayton, Ohio, this past July. I readily admit the futuristic design left me somewhat skeptical; however, my skepticism dissolved after firing only a handful of ammunition. The more I fired the FN P90, the more I admired its futuristic design and unique capabilities.
I will discuss the FN P90�s unique characteristics by focusing on the following categories in order to logically discuss the weapon: ergonomics, mechanism, safety, ejection, magazine, versions, sighting system, ammunition, maintenance, and accessories.
Ergonomics: The FN P90 is very compact (the overall length is 19.7 inches; the width is only 2.2 inches; and the height, including the optical sight, is 8.3 inches). The entire weapon system only weighs 6.6 pounds with a completely loaded 50 round magazine affixed. Not only are the dimensions"
By Tony L. Jones
Times are changing very quickly for police agencies. Criminals today are more determined, not afraid of the judicial system, better armed, and well equipped with items such as personal body armor, radios, and protective (gas) masks. As a result, agencies are expressing the need for lightweight, compact, ambidextrous, and easy to use weapons which fire a cartridge that will be effective against the modern criminal, but not pose the liability risk of a rifle. FN Herstal took notice and developed a weapon system called the FN P90 Submachine Gun to address all of these issues.
This weapon system may be classified as a Personal Defense Weapon (PDW), which is typically a military designation, or as an entry/containment weapon useful in the law enforcement arena.
I seized the opportunity to observe, handle and fire the FN P90 at the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors (IALEFI) Regional Conference held in Dayton, Ohio, this past July. I readily admit the futuristic design left me somewhat skeptical; however, my skepticism dissolved after firing only a handful of ammunition. The more I fired the FN P90, the more I admired its futuristic design and unique capabilities.
I will discuss the FN P90�s unique characteristics by focusing on the following categories in order to logically discuss the weapon: ergonomics, mechanism, safety, ejection, magazine, versions, sighting system, ammunition, maintenance, and accessories.
Ergonomics: The FN P90 is very compact (the overall length is 19.7 inches; the width is only 2.2 inches; and the height, including the optical sight, is 8.3 inches). The entire weapon system only weighs 6.6 pounds with a completely loaded 50 round magazine affixed. Not only are the dimensions"
Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Tuesday, September 20, 2005
Army Technology - FN HERSTAL - Small Arms and Weapon Systems
Army Technology - FN HERSTAL - Small Arms and Weapon Systems: "5.7 X 28mm WEAPON SYSTEM
The 5.7 x 28mm Weapon System is based around the SS190 round which can be fired by both the P90� submachine gun and the Five-seveN� pistol. Both weapons are ergonomically designed with no protruding parts and can be field stripped without tools in a very short amount of time.
P90� SUBMACHINE GUN
With a maximum effective range of 200m and a 900rpm firing rate, this 3kg weapon is highly versatile, having both single shot and fully automatic firing modes. The P90� is fitted with an integrated optical sight that allows the user to shoot with both eyes open; this can easily be replaced with other types of sights.
FIVE-SEVEN� TACTICAL PISTOL
The Five-seveN� tactical pistol is a single action pistol with hidden hammer characterised by a short, light trigger pull for fast accurate shooting."
The 5.7 x 28mm Weapon System is based around the SS190 round which can be fired by both the P90� submachine gun and the Five-seveN� pistol. Both weapons are ergonomically designed with no protruding parts and can be field stripped without tools in a very short amount of time.
P90� SUBMACHINE GUN
With a maximum effective range of 200m and a 900rpm firing rate, this 3kg weapon is highly versatile, having both single shot and fully automatic firing modes. The P90� is fitted with an integrated optical sight that allows the user to shoot with both eyes open; this can easily be replaced with other types of sights.
FIVE-SEVEN� TACTICAL PISTOL
The Five-seveN� tactical pistol is a single action pistol with hidden hammer characterised by a short, light trigger pull for fast accurate shooting."
Monday, September 19, 2005
Discussion Forum: Oslo: Milit�r Operativ Gruppe Informerer:
Discussion Forum: Oslo: Milit�r Operativ Gruppe Informerer:: "Noe av det mest spesielle vi fikk anledning til � pr�ve var H&K PDW/MP7 i kaliber 4,6x 30 og
FN P90 i kaliber 5,7 x 28. "
FN P90 i kaliber 5,7 x 28. "
Sunday, September 18, 2005
FN Five-seveN Pistols & Ammo at Cal's Sporting Armory Online Store
I'm pretty sure I've already noted Cal's but here they are again.
FN Five-seveN Pistols & Ammo at Cal's Sporting Armory Online Store
FN Five-seveN Pistols & Ammo at Cal's Sporting Armory Online Store
Friday, September 16, 2005
Taser Ordering System
Taser Ordering System: "TASER devices are not considered firearms. They can be legally carried (concealed or open) without permit required in 43 states."
Thursday, September 15, 2005
Monday, September 12, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - H110 horror story
[Editor's note:
I've preserved this post for posterity. The load data contained here is KNOWN to be dangerous and will PROBABLY BREAK YOUR GUN or DAMAGE YOU. DO NOT USE THE LOAD DATA CONTAINED in THIS POST.]
Originally posted by snw19.
FN FiveseveN Forums - H110 horror story: "I first started to reload for this caliber for the following reasons:
1) Only available round (I can get) for this caliber was the SS192 that has no expansion for hunting and is worthless as a defensive round. A friend of mine shot a Havelina with one and the exit wound (after he killed it with his .41 mag) from the SS192 was barely larger than the entry, didn�t even make it jump.
2) Ammo was becoming less and less available, prices were doubling every week. Not very cost effective if I wanted to become proficient with it.
3) The release of the SS196 kept on getting pushed further back. Besides, what can I do with a 40gr bullet at 1600 fps that my .357 and its 125gr bullet traveling 1450 fps or a 115gr 9mm going 1350 fps isn�t going to do better?
Since there was no data available anywhere that I could find, I grabbed my book and started looking at cartridges that were �close� to this one. Published info that I had found was that ��powder charge of 6.5 grs, using a very small-grained ball powder propels the 31gr bullet at a measured 2329 fps from the P-90�s 9.8� barrel.� Okay. Some of the best velocity vs pressure for the 22 Hornet and 218 Bee use Hodgdon H110. Hey, I have some of that I used to use in my .357 and .44. Wow, that�s the smallest grain ball powder I have ever seen. I�ll try it�
Since 10gr of H110 push a 40 grain bullet 2570 fps out of a 22 Hornet and the SS196s are supposed to go 1600fps, I loaded two rounds each of 5.75, 6.0, 6.25, and 6.5 grains. Grabbed the chrono and a friend to catch the brass for me (only had 99 then) and went out. First round at 5.75 fired showed 840 fps, case flopped out like a fish. There was also some pretty heavy recoil, primer fine. Second round fired showed error, case barely made "
[Editor's note: (just in case you missed the same verbiage at the top)
I've preserved this post for posterity. The load data contained here is KNOWN to be dangerous and will PROBABLY BREAK YOUR GUN or DAMAGE YOU. DO NOT USE THE LOAD DATA CONTAINED in THIS POST.]
I've preserved this post for posterity. The load data contained here is KNOWN to be dangerous and will PROBABLY BREAK YOUR GUN or DAMAGE YOU. DO NOT USE THE LOAD DATA CONTAINED in THIS POST.]
Originally posted by snw19.
FN FiveseveN Forums - H110 horror story: "I first started to reload for this caliber for the following reasons:
1) Only available round (I can get) for this caliber was the SS192 that has no expansion for hunting and is worthless as a defensive round. A friend of mine shot a Havelina with one and the exit wound (after he killed it with his .41 mag) from the SS192 was barely larger than the entry, didn�t even make it jump.
2) Ammo was becoming less and less available, prices were doubling every week. Not very cost effective if I wanted to become proficient with it.
3) The release of the SS196 kept on getting pushed further back. Besides, what can I do with a 40gr bullet at 1600 fps that my .357 and its 125gr bullet traveling 1450 fps or a 115gr 9mm going 1350 fps isn�t going to do better?
Since there was no data available anywhere that I could find, I grabbed my book and started looking at cartridges that were �close� to this one. Published info that I had found was that ��powder charge of 6.5 grs, using a very small-grained ball powder propels the 31gr bullet at a measured 2329 fps from the P-90�s 9.8� barrel.� Okay. Some of the best velocity vs pressure for the 22 Hornet and 218 Bee use Hodgdon H110. Hey, I have some of that I used to use in my .357 and .44. Wow, that�s the smallest grain ball powder I have ever seen. I�ll try it�
Since 10gr of H110 push a 40 grain bullet 2570 fps out of a 22 Hornet and the SS196s are supposed to go 1600fps, I loaded two rounds each of 5.75, 6.0, 6.25, and 6.5 grains. Grabbed the chrono and a friend to catch the brass for me (only had 99 then) and went out. First round at 5.75 fired showed 840 fps, case flopped out like a fish. There was also some pretty heavy recoil, primer fine. Second round fired showed error, case barely made "
[Editor's note: (just in case you missed the same verbiage at the top)
I've preserved this post for posterity. The load data contained here is KNOWN to be dangerous and will PROBABLY BREAK YOUR GUN or DAMAGE YOU. DO NOT USE THE LOAD DATA CONTAINED in THIS POST.]
MidwayUSA - Sierra GameKing Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Box of 100
MidwayUSA - Sierra GameKing Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Box of 100: "Sierra GameKing Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Box of 100
GameKing Bullets are designed for hunting at long range, where their extra margin of performance can make the critical difference. GameKing bullets feature a boat tail design to bring hunters the ballistic advantage normally found with match target bullets. The streamlined tapered base of the boat tail greatly reduces drag, which results in higher retained velocity, greater striking energy, a flatter trajectory and less wind drift than comparable flat base bullets."
GameKing Bullets are designed for hunting at long range, where their extra margin of performance can make the critical difference. GameKing bullets feature a boat tail design to bring hunters the ballistic advantage normally found with match target bullets. The streamlined tapered base of the boat tail greatly reduces drag, which results in higher retained velocity, greater striking energy, a flatter trajectory and less wind drift than comparable flat base bullets."
SU-16D Rifle
SU-16D Rifle: "KEL-TEC 5.56 mm SU-16D PERSONAL SECURITY RIFLE
The SU-16D is currently available in two models D9 and D12. The SU-16D12 has a longer barrel for higher velocity and can also accept a standard M-9 bayonet, or more appropriately, our new light weight, folding bayonet.
The SU-16D is a gas operated, semi-automatic rifle in 5.56 mm NATO caliber. The barrel and chamber are chrome lined. The 'Delta' model rifles are intended as a personal weapon for non-infantry military personnel, special operations, SWAT law enforcement, and civilians in high risk environments. The SU-16D is especially suited for low intensity urban combat such as ambush response from inside a vehicle. or fighting in confined spaces.
The concept of replacing the pistol with a carbine in military units is not new. Nowadays, the intermediate power 5.56 mm round and modern polymer materials make it possible to achieve a weapon of a size and weight only marginally larger than a service pistol.
The SU-16D9 is less than 20� folded, weighs 4.7 lbs loaded with 30 rounds and has a practical range of over 300 m.
The SU-16D has a conventional gas piston operation and utilizes the proven M-16 breech locking system. The reciprocating bolt handle also functions as a case deflector. The rear sight is zeroed at 250 m and adjustable for windage. The front sight is of M-16 type. Two integrated Picatinny rails will accept a multitude of standard accessories. Except for barrel, bolt, sights and mechanism the SU-16 is made entirely of high impact, glass fiber reinforced polymer."
The SU-16D is currently available in two models D9 and D12. The SU-16D12 has a longer barrel for higher velocity and can also accept a standard M-9 bayonet, or more appropriately, our new light weight, folding bayonet.
The SU-16D is a gas operated, semi-automatic rifle in 5.56 mm NATO caliber. The barrel and chamber are chrome lined. The 'Delta' model rifles are intended as a personal weapon for non-infantry military personnel, special operations, SWAT law enforcement, and civilians in high risk environments. The SU-16D is especially suited for low intensity urban combat such as ambush response from inside a vehicle. or fighting in confined spaces.
The concept of replacing the pistol with a carbine in military units is not new. Nowadays, the intermediate power 5.56 mm round and modern polymer materials make it possible to achieve a weapon of a size and weight only marginally larger than a service pistol.
The SU-16D9 is less than 20� folded, weighs 4.7 lbs loaded with 30 rounds and has a practical range of over 300 m.
The SU-16D has a conventional gas piston operation and utilizes the proven M-16 breech locking system. The reciprocating bolt handle also functions as a case deflector. The rear sight is zeroed at 250 m and adjustable for windage. The front sight is of M-16 type. Two integrated Picatinny rails will accept a multitude of standard accessories. Except for barrel, bolt, sights and mechanism the SU-16 is made entirely of high impact, glass fiber reinforced polymer."
Friday, September 09, 2005
Thursday, September 08, 2005
Document Title
Document Title: "FN FIVE-SEVEN USG
De FN Five-Seven USG is een product van FN USA. Deze FN wordt geleverd in het kaliber 5,7x28mm en is voorzien van een Polymeer frame. Tevens is zij voorzien van een geintergreerde accessoire rail en omkeerbare magazijn uitwerpknop. De lengte bedraagt 208 mm met een looplengte van 122,4 mm. In tegestelling tot hetgeen verwacht zou worden betreft het een single action pistool en breekt men ( terecht) met de trend om uitsluitend double action wapens te produceren. Het feit dat het een ontwikkeling uit de Amerikaanse vestiging van FN betreft zou kunnen betekenen dat het model uitsluitend in Amerika zal worden verkocht, echter de kaliber aanduiding in mm en de magazijn capaciteit van 20 patronen spreekt dat mogelijk weer tegen. "
De FN Five-Seven USG is een product van FN USA. Deze FN wordt geleverd in het kaliber 5,7x28mm en is voorzien van een Polymeer frame. Tevens is zij voorzien van een geintergreerde accessoire rail en omkeerbare magazijn uitwerpknop. De lengte bedraagt 208 mm met een looplengte van 122,4 mm. In tegestelling tot hetgeen verwacht zou worden betreft het een single action pistool en breekt men ( terecht) met de trend om uitsluitend double action wapens te produceren. Het feit dat het een ontwikkeling uit de Amerikaanse vestiging van FN betreft zou kunnen betekenen dat het model uitsluitend in Amerika zal worden verkocht, echter de kaliber aanduiding in mm en de magazijn capaciteit van 20 patronen spreekt dat mogelijk weer tegen. "
Shooting Industry Magazine
Shooting Industry Magazine: "
FNH USA
FN Five-Seven USG
FNH USA�s Five-Seven USG semi-auto in 5.7x28mm features a polymer frame, integrated accessory rail, reversible magazine release and textured grip. With a 4.82-inch barrel, it measures 8.2 inches overall length and weighs 1.36 pounds. The single-action pistol comes with a 20-round magazine.
FNH USA Inc.
(703) 288-1292
www.fnhusa.com"
FNH USA
FN Five-Seven USG
FNH USA�s Five-Seven USG semi-auto in 5.7x28mm features a polymer frame, integrated accessory rail, reversible magazine release and textured grip. With a 4.82-inch barrel, it measures 8.2 inches overall length and weighs 1.36 pounds. The single-action pistol comes with a 20-round magazine.
FNH USA Inc.
(703) 288-1292
www.fnhusa.com"
page2i
page2i: "And now for something a whole lot different...
FN FiveSeven
The next pistol to be tested around here is the new FN FiveSeven 'USG' model. This pistol holds 20 rounds of 5.7 x 28 mm. It has a light rail and adjustable sights. The safety is in an unusual spot, above the trigger as shown in the picture above, and the magzine release can be moved to the other side of the gun. Since slides should be released by grasping the slide with the support side hand, pulling back and releasing, it doesn't much matter which side the built-in slide release is on.
Although ammunition is hard to find, and expensive, the 5.7 offers some unique attributes: high magazine capacity, low recoil, good sights, good ergonomics, and ease of operation (different from ergonomics...). The 5.7 has a reputation among those politicians with low IQs and reading skills as being a dangerous, because it will fire a round that can go through body armor. It is a military pistol that was designed to have this capability. Those of us who shoot as a hobby have no interest in this capability, but rather are intrigued by the flat shooting characteristics of the round. A pistol that can hit at 100 or even 200 meters is interesting, because most pistols don't do well at longer ranges. For personal defense, the 5.7 caliber may or may not be a good idea. We know that all pistol rounds are weak when compared with shotguns and rifles, and the 5.7 will not be an exception to that general rule. On the other hand, bullet placement is a key to an effective defensive shooting capability. The 5.7 should be very good in that respect, and a 20 round magazine and low recoil offers the chance to place several bullets in the same time another heavier caliber pistol's front sight would be coming back on target.
There is a discussion forum about the FiveSeven. Ha"
FN FiveSeven
The next pistol to be tested around here is the new FN FiveSeven 'USG' model. This pistol holds 20 rounds of 5.7 x 28 mm. It has a light rail and adjustable sights. The safety is in an unusual spot, above the trigger as shown in the picture above, and the magzine release can be moved to the other side of the gun. Since slides should be released by grasping the slide with the support side hand, pulling back and releasing, it doesn't much matter which side the built-in slide release is on.
Although ammunition is hard to find, and expensive, the 5.7 offers some unique attributes: high magazine capacity, low recoil, good sights, good ergonomics, and ease of operation (different from ergonomics...). The 5.7 has a reputation among those politicians with low IQs and reading skills as being a dangerous, because it will fire a round that can go through body armor. It is a military pistol that was designed to have this capability. Those of us who shoot as a hobby have no interest in this capability, but rather are intrigued by the flat shooting characteristics of the round. A pistol that can hit at 100 or even 200 meters is interesting, because most pistols don't do well at longer ranges. For personal defense, the 5.7 caliber may or may not be a good idea. We know that all pistol rounds are weak when compared with shotguns and rifles, and the 5.7 will not be an exception to that general rule. On the other hand, bullet placement is a key to an effective defensive shooting capability. The 5.7 should be very good in that respect, and a 20 round magazine and low recoil offers the chance to place several bullets in the same time another heavier caliber pistol's front sight would be coming back on target.
There is a discussion forum about the FiveSeven. Ha"
fnp90 from Police and Security News
fnp90: "FN Herstal USA, Inc.
There is one new player in the game and that is the firm of FN Herstal, doing business in the USA as FN Herstal USA, Inc. If this name sounds familiar, it�s because this company has been building the Browning designed High Power since its inception in 1935. FNH has spent the last three years surveying the U.S. law enforcement market and is now ready to deliver its new P90 Bullpup design submachine pistol, as well as a new handgun, the Five-Seven Pistol, with a capacity of 20 rounds. Both are chambered for a new cartridge as well � the 5.7 x 28mm round.
As to the efficacy of the new cartridge, FNH officials point out that, in the SMG, the bullet penetrates 48 layers (!!) of Kevlar� at 100 meters. (The ammunition is restricted to law enforcement sales only.) FN also has double-action-only, full-size and compact versions of the High Power, now only offered in 9mm. The FNH police shotgun is a pump action 12-gauge with a three inch chamber, blade front and open elevation adjustable rear sight, synthetic furniture and a parkerized type finish. FNH has also gone into the law enforcement training business, allying themselves with Crucible, a training corporation with an 88 acre facility in Northen Virginia. "
There is one new player in the game and that is the firm of FN Herstal, doing business in the USA as FN Herstal USA, Inc. If this name sounds familiar, it�s because this company has been building the Browning designed High Power since its inception in 1935. FNH has spent the last three years surveying the U.S. law enforcement market and is now ready to deliver its new P90 Bullpup design submachine pistol, as well as a new handgun, the Five-Seven Pistol, with a capacity of 20 rounds. Both are chambered for a new cartridge as well � the 5.7 x 28mm round.
As to the efficacy of the new cartridge, FNH officials point out that, in the SMG, the bullet penetrates 48 layers (!!) of Kevlar� at 100 meters. (The ammunition is restricted to law enforcement sales only.) FN also has double-action-only, full-size and compact versions of the High Power, now only offered in 9mm. The FNH police shotgun is a pump action 12-gauge with a three inch chamber, blade front and open elevation adjustable rear sight, synthetic furniture and a parkerized type finish. FNH has also gone into the law enforcement training business, allying themselves with Crucible, a training corporation with an 88 acre facility in Northen Virginia. "
Wednesday, September 07, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Problem with ejecting case or cycling...
Rnelson11's notes...
FN FiveseveN Forums - Problem with ejecting case or cycling...: "I've been off work a couple of days so I've spent a lot of time trying to address this problem. I started a new tread because I have a bit of new information.
First, I've had a few cases that extended out of the barrel further than the factory rounds but if I lube them well they are almost exactly the same as factory (.128'-.130'). I had one that was .164' and the breech would not fully close so the firing pin only slightly marked it. When this happens the slide sticks back about 1/16' and the round does not fire. But let me also say that an extended shoulder is not the only thing that will cause this (read on).
I had 20 rounds loaded today (10-35gr V-Max w/6.6gr of HS-6 and 10-40gr V-Maxw/6.7gr of HS-6) so I rode down to the woods to test them. I shot 5 of the 35 gr bullets and only 2 ejected so I saved the rest to check when I got back to the house. I shot 9 of the 40 gr bullets (the primer fell out of one) and only about half ejected. These cases have been fired about 8 times using a lot of different powder weights.
When I got to the house I started checking the rounds and noticed that the rims were beaten up pretty bad. I checked them with my micrometer and they were as much as .313' diameter, the factory rounds were .304'. I assume they flattened and pancaked from slamming against the breech when fired. I also noticed several with deep cuts which I assume came from being ejected. I spun the remaining 5 on a file and got then back to about .304'-.305' and de-burred the top and bottom of the rim. I went back to the woods and all 5 rounds fired and ejected.
I think that the damaged and 'pancaked' rims are preventing the ejection lever (hook) from catching the rim when trying to jerk the casing out at high speed. I say t"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Problem with ejecting case or cycling...: "I've been off work a couple of days so I've spent a lot of time trying to address this problem. I started a new tread because I have a bit of new information.
First, I've had a few cases that extended out of the barrel further than the factory rounds but if I lube them well they are almost exactly the same as factory (.128'-.130'). I had one that was .164' and the breech would not fully close so the firing pin only slightly marked it. When this happens the slide sticks back about 1/16' and the round does not fire. But let me also say that an extended shoulder is not the only thing that will cause this (read on).
I had 20 rounds loaded today (10-35gr V-Max w/6.6gr of HS-6 and 10-40gr V-Maxw/6.7gr of HS-6) so I rode down to the woods to test them. I shot 5 of the 35 gr bullets and only 2 ejected so I saved the rest to check when I got back to the house. I shot 9 of the 40 gr bullets (the primer fell out of one) and only about half ejected. These cases have been fired about 8 times using a lot of different powder weights.
When I got to the house I started checking the rounds and noticed that the rims were beaten up pretty bad. I checked them with my micrometer and they were as much as .313' diameter, the factory rounds were .304'. I assume they flattened and pancaked from slamming against the breech when fired. I also noticed several with deep cuts which I assume came from being ejected. I spun the remaining 5 on a file and got then back to about .304'-.305' and de-burred the top and bottom of the rim. I went back to the woods and all 5 rounds fired and ejected.
I think that the damaged and 'pancaked' rims are preventing the ejection lever (hook) from catching the rim when trying to jerk the casing out at high speed. I say t"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Heads up ss196 in stock
This was WRT the SS196 vs SS192/SS195
FN FiveseveN Forums - Heads up ss196 in stock: "21 Clicks up
Just crank in 21 clicks up to the rear sight and she will be good to go until you find better ammo. No need to be shy about moving the rear sight."
FN FiveseveN Forums - Heads up ss196 in stock: "21 Clicks up
Just crank in 21 clicks up to the rear sight and she will be good to go until you find better ammo. No need to be shy about moving the rear sight."
Saturday, September 03, 2005
Arizona Ear Protection
Arizona Ear Protection: "Shooting Products.
In the sport of shooting, hearing protection is vital. But the ability to still hear outside noise is also a very important safety aspect. With the many products available from Arizona Ear Protection Inc., we offer you the ability to achieve superb levels of hearing protection and still hear clearly all that is happening around you. This is an excellent feature for both sport shooters and hunters alike. No longer do you have to continuously put on your hearing protection, only to then have to remove it again to speak to someone next to you. Our hearing protection products allow you to wear them and forget them. You'll be able to hold a normal conversation and be assured that your hearing is protected
should you or someone else need to fire a shot.
Electronic Hearing Protection.
Our wide range of electronic protection covers all aspects of shooting and bow hunting, and we have several different applications to suit many varying circumstances. All of our products combine superb levels of hearing protection, along with very high levels of comfort. This allows the user to wear our products for long periods of time without risk of damage to your hearing or your ear canal"
In the sport of shooting, hearing protection is vital. But the ability to still hear outside noise is also a very important safety aspect. With the many products available from Arizona Ear Protection Inc., we offer you the ability to achieve superb levels of hearing protection and still hear clearly all that is happening around you. This is an excellent feature for both sport shooters and hunters alike. No longer do you have to continuously put on your hearing protection, only to then have to remove it again to speak to someone next to you. Our hearing protection products allow you to wear them and forget them. You'll be able to hold a normal conversation and be assured that your hearing is protected
should you or someone else need to fire a shot.
Electronic Hearing Protection.
Our wide range of electronic protection covers all aspects of shooting and bow hunting, and we have several different applications to suit many varying circumstances. All of our products combine superb levels of hearing protection, along with very high levels of comfort. This allows the user to wear our products for long periods of time without risk of damage to your hearing or your ear canal"
Friday, September 02, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - An Unconventional Pistol
FN FiveseveN Forums - An Unconventional Pistol: An Unconventional Pistol
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Fabrique Nationale, a firearm developer located in Herstal, Belgium, has been designing guns for over a century and supplying them to nearly every country in the world. One of their latest offerings, the 5.7mm Five-seveN pistol, is remarkably different than anything else of its kind. The most significant advantages incorporated in the Five-seveN are the ammunition, accuracy, weight, and size. The Five-seveN uses the 5.7x28mm ammunition designed by FN for their P-90 sub-machine gun. This means that the Five-seveN’s bullet is 5.7 millimeters thick and the shell is 28 millimeters long. Conventional pistols usually use 9x19mm or 10x21mm bullets that are effective for stopping an individual in ordinary circumstances. However, if that individual is wearing even a light Kevlar vest, these bullets will be stopped with little damage inflicted, and body armor is currently in use with over 50% of the world’s armed forces. For law enforcement officers, the ability to pierce body armor is also needed, as it is worn by an increasing number of criminals. The FN 5.7mm bullet when used in the Five-seveN pistol is perfectly fitted to these needs. It will pierce a US Army vest at 300 meters range, and a US Army helmet at 240 meters range*. Despite these figures, the 5.7mm round weighs half as much as a 9mm round and produces roughly half the recoil. The 5.7mm round of the Five-seveN has been designed to effectively incapacitate the target, but there has been controversy from skeptics over whether it is capable. Conventional hollow-point bullets rely on expansion to create a large wound, but the 5.7mm is made to hit the target, travel a few inches, then turn point upwards while inside the target and continue traveling in this manner. This means that the wound it creates would be as tall as the length of the projectile—a little over twenty-one millimeters or nearly one inch. The greatest argument in favor of the Five-seveN’s wounding ability is its performance in shootings. Anyone shot with a 5.7mm bullet has died immediately. Currently there have been over a dozen shootings with the 5.7x28mm round. Skeptics argue that this isn't a large enough sample to make any conclusions. The negligible recoil produced by the 5.7x28mm makes the Five-seveN remarkably accurate out to a range of 100 meters. The firer also has many chances to hit the target because the capacity of the weapon is also a vast improvement over other pistols. It holds twenty rounds of ammunition. But despite this capacity and the unusual length of its bullets, the Five-seveN is an incredibly light pistol, weighing 1.6 pounds loaded—only 70% as much as other plastic pistols and 50% as much as metal pistols. The Five-seveN is also reasonably compact, being the same size as comparable pistols that hold half as many cartridges of shorter length! It can be seen that the advantages incorporated in the FN Five-seveN make it an effective, if unusual, pistol.
---Written by DML, 09/02/05
* These figures come from FN's FNMI website.
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Fabrique Nationale, a firearm developer located in Herstal, Belgium, has been designing guns for over a century and supplying them to nearly every country in the world. One of their latest offerings, the 5.7mm Five-seveN pistol, is remarkably different than anything else of its kind. The most significant advantages incorporated in the Five-seveN are the ammunition, accuracy, weight, and size. The Five-seveN uses the 5.7x28mm ammunition designed by FN for their P-90 sub-machine gun. This means that the Five-seveN’s bullet is 5.7 millimeters thick and the shell is 28 millimeters long. Conventional pistols usually use 9x19mm or 10x21mm bullets that are effective for stopping an individual in ordinary circumstances. However, if that individual is wearing even a light Kevlar vest, these bullets will be stopped with little damage inflicted, and body armor is currently in use with over 50% of the world’s armed forces. For law enforcement officers, the ability to pierce body armor is also needed, as it is worn by an increasing number of criminals. The FN 5.7mm bullet when used in the Five-seveN pistol is perfectly fitted to these needs. It will pierce a US Army vest at 300 meters range, and a US Army helmet at 240 meters range*. Despite these figures, the 5.7mm round weighs half as much as a 9mm round and produces roughly half the recoil. The 5.7mm round of the Five-seveN has been designed to effectively incapacitate the target, but there has been controversy from skeptics over whether it is capable. Conventional hollow-point bullets rely on expansion to create a large wound, but the 5.7mm is made to hit the target, travel a few inches, then turn point upwards while inside the target and continue traveling in this manner. This means that the wound it creates would be as tall as the length of the projectile—a little over twenty-one millimeters or nearly one inch. The greatest argument in favor of the Five-seveN’s wounding ability is its performance in shootings. Anyone shot with a 5.7mm bullet has died immediately. Currently there have been over a dozen shootings with the 5.7x28mm round. Skeptics argue that this isn't a large enough sample to make any conclusions. The negligible recoil produced by the 5.7x28mm makes the Five-seveN remarkably accurate out to a range of 100 meters. The firer also has many chances to hit the target because the capacity of the weapon is also a vast improvement over other pistols. It holds twenty rounds of ammunition. But despite this capacity and the unusual length of its bullets, the Five-seveN is an incredibly light pistol, weighing 1.6 pounds loaded—only 70% as much as other plastic pistols and 50% as much as metal pistols. The Five-seveN is also reasonably compact, being the same size as comparable pistols that hold half as many cartridges of shorter length! It can be seen that the advantages incorporated in the FN Five-seveN make it an effective, if unusual, pistol.
---Written by DML, 09/02/05
* These figures come from FN's FNMI website.
Thursday, September 01, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Stargate sling for the P90
FN FiveseveN Forums - Stargate sling for the P90: "Well, for those of you that want an opinion of how the sling works.. I use a P90 when I play airsoft, and I do use the P90 sling. Where I play there are lots of mountains, hills, river beds, and of course the occasional baracades.
I can tell you that carrying the P90 with this sling is very useful.
#1 - Since the weight is distributed around my whole body, the gun never becomes heavy, or the sling never rubs against my neck.
#2 - Since the weapon is in front of my body, I can bring it up to a shooting position quite easily, or let it drop when not using it.
If you guys have any other questions.. I will be more than happy to answer them.
Docfate"
I can tell you that carrying the P90 with this sling is very useful.
#1 - Since the weight is distributed around my whole body, the gun never becomes heavy, or the sling never rubs against my neck.
#2 - Since the weapon is in front of my body, I can bring it up to a shooting position quite easily, or let it drop when not using it.
If you guys have any other questions.. I will be more than happy to answer them.
Docfate"
Tuesday, August 30, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - So what are the odds that they will ever make higher capacity mags?
HunterGrn asked:
FN FiveseveN Forums - So what are the odds that they will ever make higher capacity mags?: "I was thinking it would be nice to have a 30 or even a 40 round extended mag just for kicks. Do you think anyone will ever make some?"
FNMAN said:
There is a company working on a 10 rd extension. You will be able to stack them and springs will be available to get it to 40 rds. It is almost completed. I can not say who it is until they are ready to go to market. The prototypes I have seen are awesome.
FN FiveseveN Forums - So what are the odds that they will ever make higher capacity mags?: "I was thinking it would be nice to have a 30 or even a 40 round extended mag just for kicks. Do you think anyone will ever make some?"
FNMAN said:
There is a company working on a 10 rd extension. You will be able to stack them and springs will be available to get it to 40 rds. It is almost completed. I can not say who it is until they are ready to go to market. The prototypes I have seen are awesome.
Monday, August 29, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - SB193 77-grain Variant?
FN FiveseveN Forums - SB193 77-grain Variant?: "1) PS-90's are slated for an Late Oct. Ship date.
2) There are many PS-90's on order already. FNH will build PS-90's as quickly as they can.
3)The PS-90 will come with the standard reflex sight. However, they will sell the picatinny rail to replace the reflex sight and the side rail for lights. There will be no TR models at this time.
4)The PS-90 and FS-2000 will be added to the website as soon as FNH decides to."
2) There are many PS-90's on order already. FNH will build PS-90's as quickly as they can.
3)The PS-90 will come with the standard reflex sight. However, they will sell the picatinny rail to replace the reflex sight and the side rail for lights. There will be no TR models at this time.
4)The PS-90 and FS-2000 will be added to the website as soon as FNH decides to."
Sunday, August 28, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - other platforms for 5.7
Clayton Moore's thoughts on other platforms:
FN FiveseveN Forums - other platforms for 5.7: "Im thinking you could lengthen existing designs without too much trouble - the simpler they are the better... a big question in my mind is can you make a straight blowback 5.7x28 and have it be reliable.... if so this really allows some cheap ass guns
taking the FiveSeven hi cap
-a Mini Uzi / Mac10 / Clarige Hi Tec / Tec9 type straight blowback semi auto pistol and a folding/collapsing stock carbine version
-a KelTec Sub5.7 carbine that folds
-something that looks like the sterling SMG with a tube receiver w/Five Seven mag feeding from the left side of the gun
-a highpoint 5.7 pistol and carbine - both in that $199 - $299 price range
-a ruger 10/57 semi auto based on the 10/22 (or a semi auto 5.7 rifle from marlin)
- a ruger 77/57 bolt gun based on the 77/22 (or a bolt gun from marlin)
-I always have liked my AR-7, so Im also gonna ask for a AR57 survival rifle - the action and barrel takedown and stow in the butstock (and it floats)
and a couple more that wont take the Five Seven hicap,
-a thompson contender single shot handgun and rifle
-H&R handi rifle
-the taurus raging 57 that was already mentioned - make it a 10 shooter please
-I wonder if ruger can do a 6 shot 5.7 cylinder for the single six..... a three cylinder convertible (22lr, 22 mag, 5.7x28) revolver would make a nice davidsons limited edition gun
-a CZ 527 mini mauser bolt gun"
FN FiveseveN Forums - other platforms for 5.7: "Im thinking you could lengthen existing designs without too much trouble - the simpler they are the better... a big question in my mind is can you make a straight blowback 5.7x28 and have it be reliable.... if so this really allows some cheap ass guns
taking the FiveSeven hi cap
-a Mini Uzi / Mac10 / Clarige Hi Tec / Tec9 type straight blowback semi auto pistol and a folding/collapsing stock carbine version
-a KelTec Sub5.7 carbine that folds
-something that looks like the sterling SMG with a tube receiver w/Five Seven mag feeding from the left side of the gun
-a highpoint 5.7 pistol and carbine - both in that $199 - $299 price range
-a ruger 10/57 semi auto based on the 10/22 (or a semi auto 5.7 rifle from marlin)
- a ruger 77/57 bolt gun based on the 77/22 (or a bolt gun from marlin)
-I always have liked my AR-7, so Im also gonna ask for a AR57 survival rifle - the action and barrel takedown and stow in the butstock (and it floats)
and a couple more that wont take the Five Seven hicap,
-a thompson contender single shot handgun and rifle
-H&R handi rifle
-the taurus raging 57 that was already mentioned - make it a 10 shooter please
-I wonder if ruger can do a 6 shot 5.7 cylinder for the single six..... a three cylinder convertible (22lr, 22 mag, 5.7x28) revolver would make a nice davidsons limited edition gun
-a CZ 527 mini mauser bolt gun"
Friday, August 26, 2005
Premium .224 Caliber Hunting Bullet Comparison - by Rob Martin
Premium .224 Caliber Hunting Bullet Comparison - by Rob Martin: "Sierra Game King
Another old standby for the test, the Game King is a widely used bullet. The construction is a simple tapered jacket design with a bump that, in theory, locks in the core and prevents over-expansion. The premise of the Game King was to give ballistic results similar to that of the highly acclaimed Match King in a hunting bullet. I will attest to the fact that they are very accurate and stable at long ranges, and I have made some impressively long range shots on varmints with these bullets (over six hundred meters on rock hyrax and jackal) and have put down larger game animals such as fallow deer, springbok and Blesbok at tree hundred plus meter ranges. Bullet performance, for me, has been a mixed bag of reliability over the years I have used the Game King, in part prompting this test in the first place.
The Sierras are a full metal jacket designed bullet with an open base. It is my though that the open base allows for the sometimes high percentage of bullet failure associated with this bullet. Wit nothing to retain any semblance of cohesion at the base of the bullet, there is nothing to keep the jacket intact after impacting bone. Many have abandoned this bullet in favor of newer bullet designs that have come down the pike in recent years. Sierra may want to rethink some of the antiquated designs they continue to produce and try to keep up with the Jonses.
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Another old standby for the test, the Game King is a widely used bullet. The construction is a simple tapered jacket design with a bump that, in theory, locks in the core and prevents over-expansion. The premise of the Game King was to give ballistic results similar to that of the highly acclaimed Match King in a hunting bullet. I will attest to the fact that they are very accurate and stable at long ranges, and I have made some impressively long range shots on varmints with these bullets (over six hundred meters on rock hyrax and jackal) and have put down larger game animals such as fallow deer, springbok and Blesbok at tree hundred plus meter ranges. Bullet performance, for me, has been a mixed bag of reliability over the years I have used the Game King, in part prompting this test in the first place.
The Sierras are a full metal jacket designed bullet with an open base. It is my though that the open base allows for the sometimes high percentage of bullet failure associated with this bullet. Wit nothing to retain any semblance of cohesion at the base of the bullet, there is nothing to keep the jacket intact after impacting bone. Many have abandoned this bullet in favor of newer bullet designs that have come down the pike in recent years. Sierra may want to rethink some of the antiquated designs they continue to produce and try to keep up with the Jonses.
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Wednesday, August 24, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Dies (from Hornady)
FN FiveseveN Forums - Dies: "Hornady has them available for sale, they just haven't posted to their site or put into catalog yet. You have to call them. I got an email from a Hornady person and was told that, 'The die part number is 544203 and uses a shell holder 37. ' You can call Hornady at this number to order: 1-800-338-3220, and choose the 'Retail Sales' option from the phone menu. I believe it came to around $49.00 and change for Dies, Shellholder and shipping."
Wednesday, August 17, 2005
Tuesday, August 16, 2005
Monday, August 15, 2005
Wednesday, August 10, 2005
Tuesday, August 09, 2005
Rhineland Arms - G2 Tactical Rifle
G2 Tactical Rifle: "
Coming Soon
Rhineland Arms will be offering 2 new rifles for the new 5.7*28mm caliber. These rifles will be modular, light and accurate. The 5.7*28 mm is a 22 caliber bullet, the same as a .223 that we are all used to.
The first rifle will be more traditional than the R22 yet still utilize a free float barrel for high accuracy capabilities. The rifle will use the standard FN FiveseveN 10 or 20 round magazines and feature a 17' button made barrel. This rifle will have several parts that are inter-changable with other parts currently on the market. Priced around $500
The second rifle will be based on the same magazine as the FN P90. This rifle will have a free floating 16.5' barrel and readily accept optics. The features of the rifle will be very familiar with a traditional military stock, pistol grip and forearm format. Priced around $550
Rhineland Arms
972-342-2105"
Coming Soon
Rhineland Arms will be offering 2 new rifles for the new 5.7*28mm caliber. These rifles will be modular, light and accurate. The 5.7*28 mm is a 22 caliber bullet, the same as a .223 that we are all used to.
The first rifle will be more traditional than the R22 yet still utilize a free float barrel for high accuracy capabilities. The rifle will use the standard FN FiveseveN 10 or 20 round magazines and feature a 17' button made barrel. This rifle will have several parts that are inter-changable with other parts currently on the market. Priced around $500
The second rifle will be based on the same magazine as the FN P90. This rifle will have a free floating 16.5' barrel and readily accept optics. The features of the rifle will be very familiar with a traditional military stock, pistol grip and forearm format. Priced around $550
Rhineland Arms
972-342-2105"
Sunday, August 07, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Pull 40 gr V-MAX from ss196, replace with Berger 30gr ???
Posted by benb:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Pull 40 gr V-MAX from ss196, replace with Berger 30gr ???: "I finally got to pull 5 40gr VMax bullets from some SS196.
The powder charge is a very consistant 4.6 grains of a very fine gray powder. I've never seen anything like it before. The case is only abount half full. The bullet is sealed in the case with some kind of sealer or adhesive.
As for the Berger 30 gr vs. the 40 gr VMax:
VMax measured .683 and the Berger .615. The difference of .068 is mainly in the sharper plastic tip of the VMax versus the blunt hollow point of the Berger.
bullet picture
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005...30/DSC00410.JPG
I set my seating die using a SS196 round which had an OAL of 1.583. My reloaded Berger round measured 1.493, a difference of .090. Again, much of the difference being the sharpened VMax tip. Actually, the Berger may take up the same or more space in the case than the VMax because the Berger is flat based vs. the beveled base on the VMax.
Picture of loaded rounds
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005...30/DSC00408.jpg
My feeling at this point is (like someone else here said) that FN may have been a bit conservative and this round has more potential than what we've gotten from the factory so far. That goes for the SS192/SS195LF as well as the politically correct SS196. Just gotta find the right powder/primer. I also think the Berger 30 has great potential for this round. Still have to get to the range and check out these reloads."
FN FiveseveN Forums - Pull 40 gr V-MAX from ss196, replace with Berger 30gr ???: "I finally got to pull 5 40gr VMax bullets from some SS196.
The powder charge is a very consistant 4.6 grains of a very fine gray powder. I've never seen anything like it before. The case is only abount half full. The bullet is sealed in the case with some kind of sealer or adhesive.
As for the Berger 30 gr vs. the 40 gr VMax:
VMax measured .683 and the Berger .615. The difference of .068 is mainly in the sharper plastic tip of the VMax versus the blunt hollow point of the Berger.
bullet picture
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005...30/DSC00410.JPG
I set my seating die using a SS196 round which had an OAL of 1.583. My reloaded Berger round measured 1.493, a difference of .090. Again, much of the difference being the sharpened VMax tip. Actually, the Berger may take up the same or more space in the case than the VMax because the Berger is flat based vs. the beveled base on the VMax.
Picture of loaded rounds
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005...30/DSC00408.jpg
My feeling at this point is (like someone else here said) that FN may have been a bit conservative and this round has more potential than what we've gotten from the factory so far. That goes for the SS192/SS195LF as well as the politically correct SS196. Just gotta find the right powder/primer. I also think the Berger 30 has great potential for this round. Still have to get to the range and check out these reloads."
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