Showing posts with label Officer Safety. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Officer Safety. Show all posts

Thursday, January 11, 2007

Kel-Tec's RFB Bullpup

in 7.62 NATO
This has some nice features and seems to be well thought out.

Thursday, November 16, 2006

A less skewed view of the Five-seveN related to Officer safety



Generally a good awareness article. He does focus on SS190, and ignores the rounds that are comercially available while omiting the fact that SS190 is not made available to non-LEO/non-Gov.

Skewed view of the Five-seveN

I don't agree with them, and I don't think that they have a realistic view of threat/risk management, but here's their opinion:

Thursday, February 09, 2006

Monday, October 24, 2005

Officer Safety Items

A bit of hype in the actual description.

Officer Safety Items: "BODY ARMOR DEFEATING HANDGUN

On 10/15/04, the Trumbull Police Dept seized a FN Herstal pistol model #57 in 5.7mm caliber loaded with 5.7 x 28mm rounds. This is a relatively new caliber which was specifically designed to defeat body armor, according to the company's website. The 5.7x28 mm round currently comes in four variants, which are the ss190ap, the l191 tracer, the SB sub-sonic and the ss1902 duty/training ball ammunition. The ss190ap ammunition is advertised as being able to penetrate 48 layers of Kevlar at 50 meters when fired from the model 57 pistol; however tests revealed that the ss192 training ammo also penetrated one panel of a Threat Level 2 vest and nearly exited the second panel at a range of seven yards. A recent article in a police magazine indicated that the ss190ap round penetrated completely through 2 overlapped Threat Level 2 vests. Sales of this weapon in the U.S. have increased tremendously according to the manufacturer.

Description:This may be the closet thing to a laser gun! It's the new Five-SeveN IOM from FN Herstal. It features a new caliber 5.7X28mm SS192 which reaches over 2100FPS. FN says this gun has little or no recoil so you can stay on target. The IOM is a single action and has an ambidextrous safety, fully adjustable rear sight, three 10 rd mags, and cleaning kit. It�s made of a very light polymer and easy to take down for cleaning.


Information provided by Craig Furey. "

Thursday, September 08, 2005

fnp90 from Police and Security News

fnp90: "FN Herstal USA, Inc.
There is one new player in the game and that is the firm of FN Herstal, doing business in the USA as FN Herstal USA, Inc. If this name sounds familiar, it�s because this company has been building the Browning designed High Power since its inception in 1935. FNH has spent the last three years surveying the U.S. law enforcement market and is now ready to deliver its new P90 Bullpup design submachine pistol, as well as a new handgun, the Five-Seven Pistol, with a capacity of 20 rounds. Both are chambered for a new cartridge as well � the 5.7 x 28mm round.
As to the efficacy of the new cartridge, FNH officials point out that, in the SMG, the bullet penetrates 48 layers (!!) of Kevlar� at 100 meters. (The ammunition is restricted to law enforcement sales only.) FN also has double-action-only, full-size and compact versions of the High Power, now only offered in 9mm. The FNH police shotgun is a pump action 12-gauge with a three inch chamber, blade front and open elevation adjustable rear sight, synthetic furniture and a parkerized type finish. FNH has also gone into the law enforcement training business, allying themselves with Crucible, a training corporation with an 88 acre facility in Northen Virginia. "

Friday, June 17, 2005

wnbc.com - News - NYC's Top Cop Looks To Ban Vest-Busting Gun

wnbc.com - News - NYC's Top Cop Looks To Ban Vest-Busting Gun

wnbc.com - News - Police Worried About New Vest-Penetrating Gun

wnbc.com - News - Police Worried About New Vest-Penetrating Gun

NRA-ILA :: Current Legislation - State - Brady Video Shoots Blanks

NRA-ILA :: Current Legislation - State: "Brady Video Shoots Blanks


Friday, January 28, 2005
In an obvious setup for an ammunition-banning 'killer amendment' to defeat pro-gun legislation, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and New York Senator Chuck Schumer (D) have once again proven that they`ve never seen a gun they won`t try to ban. The target of this week`s sparsely attended Washington news conference was FN Herstal`s 'Five-SeveN,' an expensive and still rare polymer-framed handgun. At the same time they attack .50 caliber rifles for their large bullets and long-range capability, the anti-gun groups falsely claim the Five-SeveN--specially designed for short-range use with small, lightweight bullets--poses a threat to police.
The truth is, this pistol and its ammunition were approved for importation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), which stated that the ammunition is 'not armor piercing' under Federal law. BATFE also noted that in tests by FN--one of Europe`s most respected firearm manufacturers--bullets from the Five-SeveN wouldn`t penetrate two kinds of soft body armor (you can see BATFE`s statement at: www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/fabriquen.htm).
Law enforcement agencies and manufacturers follow 57 pages of detailed instructions when testing armor. Brady 'ballisticians' simply shot a vest draped over a bale of hay and handed out a video.
The Brady Campaign`s latest media hysteria is clearly aimed at defeating pro-Second Amendment bills such as the 'Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.' Last year, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) was soundly beaten at that game, when the Senate rebuffed his ploy to saddle the lawsuit bill with an amendment that would have banned most hunting rifle ammunition. The Senate rejected"

Brady Campaign - CONGRESS MUST ACT ON COP KILLER GUN

Brady Campaign - CONGRESS MUST ACT ON COP KILLER GUN: "CONGRESS MUST ACT
ON COP KILLER GUN
For Immediate Release:
03-03-2005Contact Communications:
(202) 898-0792
Washington D.C. - Today, legislation was introduced in the House and Senate to eliminate a clear and present threat to police officers across America - a handgun that shoots body armor piercing bullets.

'We are very grateful to Senators Lautenberg, Corzine and Schumer and Congressman Eliot Engel for introducing legislation in the Senate and the House of Representatives to outlaw this weapon,' said Michael Barnes, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence united with the Million Mom March. 'This weapon is a tragedy waiting to happen.'

'Instead of focusing on the threat to law enforcement caused by public sales of this cop killer gun, many in Congress are instead trying to pass legislation that would immunize the gun's manufacturer from lawsuits,' Barnes said. 'That's insane.'

The gun industry immunity legislation (H.R. 800/S. 397) introduced two weeks ago would shield FN Herstal, a Belgian company, from potential lawsuits based on the sale of its cop killer gun. FN Herstal officials have reportedly told the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) that commercially available ammunition for the weapon would not penetrate the vests worn by thousands of police officers. Testing has proven the company's claim to be false.

The easily concealable, lightweight handgun retails for about $1,000. One was purchased, along with ammunition, from a Virginia gun dealer in January by staff from the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. In a test conducted by Brady staff, the ammunition purchased with the weapon penetrated a vest. The gun and ammunition were turned over to the Wa"

Customs and Border Protection Officer Safety Alert


Wednesday, February 02, 2005

Police Groups to Warn Officers Nationwide About New Cop Killer Gun, Urge Appropriate Congressional Action

1/26/2005 2:58:00 PM


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To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Anne Rosello of The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence United with the Million Mom March, 202-898-0792

News Advisory:

The National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, International Association of Chiefs of Police, International Brotherhood of Police Officers and other national law enforcement groups will sound an alarm to law enforcement professionals around the country about a new handgun available to the general public that is capable of firing bullets through soft police body armor.

The press conference will take place at 10 a.m. Thursday, Jan. 27 at the First District headquarters of the District of Columbia Police Department located at 415 Fourth Street SW in Washington, D.C. Speakers will include Bernard Thompson, legislative Chair of NOBLE; Metropolitan Police Assistant Chief Brian Jordan, Gaithersburg, Md. Police Chief MaryAnn Viverette who serves as Vice President of the IACP and Steve Lenkart, Legislative Director of the IBPO.

The gun, the Five-SeveN handgun manufactured by FN Herstal of Belgium, is lightweight and easily concealable. It is marketed by the company on its Web site as intended "to defeat the enemy in all close combat situations in urban areas, jungle conditions, night missions and any self defense action. Enemy personnel, even wearing body armor can be effectively engaged up to 200 meters. Kevlar(r) helmets and vests as well as the CRISAT protection will be penetrated." -- http://www.fnherstal.com/html/Index.htm.

Staff of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence recently purchased the weapon at a Virginia gun dealer and test-fired it. The bullets successfully penetrated a police Kevlar vest. A video of the test will be shown and available to news media.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

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/© 2005 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

The FN FiveSeven being called a "Cop Killer" gun by the Brady gun nuts...

Here's an interesting FACT FILLED letter written by a police officer and sent to the Brady people:

Mr. Shanks,

I'm writing in reference to the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Alert titled, "Cop Killer Gun Available to the Public." I appreciate your concerns for my safety, for I am a police officer with the City of Phoenix, Arizona. However I feel I need to point out some inaccuracies in your news bulletin.

You state that, "In 2003, there were 1,866 officers assaulted in the United States with firearms." That is true, however it's very disingenuous to not continue on to say that this represents only 3% of all assaults on officers (2003 UCR). You will see this is a very small number when compared to the 46,842 assaults involving personal weapons (feet, fists, etc.), 8,059 involving other dangerous weapons (bats, clubs, etc...), and rounding out the bottom of the spectrum 1,074 assaults involving Knives or other cutting instruments.

Maybe you should have stated instead that only 45 Officers were killed in 2003 with a firearms. 34 of those were killed with handguns, and of those 10 were killed with their own weapon. Of those 34 killed none by vest penetration. The 4 officers that were killed by vest penetration were killed by .223 caliber (2), .300, and 7mm caliber rifles. The FN Five-seveN has killed no one.

You also state that the manufacturer advertises that the firearm, "will perforate 48 layers of Kevlar up to 200 meters." That may be true, however this is as advertised to the military and law enforcement while using SS190 armor piercing ammunition. Maybe you should focus on trying to ban the ammunition instead of the gun? Never mind, that ammunition is only available to military and Law enforcement. You see the BATFE has rule for selling ammunition, especially AP ammunition (see Below):

The classification of all ammunition is governed strictly by the definitions presented in the GCA. Specifically, as defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(17)(B), the term "armor piercing ammunition" means-
1. a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
2. a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.


This type of ammunition is not commercially available. However if you were to purchase this handgun you would be able to buy SS196. This is the only type of ammunition available for commercial sales for this weapon. It uses a Hornady 40gr V-max bullet and leaves the barrel at 2100fps. Interestingly enough this bullet was fired from a FN Five-seveN with a 4 3/4 inch barrel and did not penetrate a Level II vest (by the way most officers like myself wear a level IIIa vest).

You state that this weapon "comes with THREE 20 ROUND MAGAZINES--That is 60 rounds of police body armor piercing ammunition!" Well, no. That means it comes with 3 x 20 round magazines, as for the "police body armor Piercing ammunition(!), well I covered that in the above paragraph.

Also stated is "Because the range and accuracy of this weapon a gunman could easily hold an entire shift of law enforcement officers at bay for hours, making it almost impossible to engage with typical law enforcement service weapons." The accuracy of a weapon is dependant on the trigger puller behind it, not the weapon itself. Most weapons are extremely accurate with the right shooter. I can also tell you I've seen someone with no weapon keep cops at bay for hours just behind a closed door. You don't advocate getting rid of doors do you? An officer with an issue Colt Carbine can easily place rounds on target against someone with one of the FNs. Rifle are inherently more accurate and a more forgiving weapon to shoot.

Lastly sir, you state, "The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence believes there is no place in our society for this weapon." Sir, its time to be honest. The Brady Center believes there in no place in our society for ANY type of firearm. All, I repeat ALL, studies have shown that gun control does not deter crime/gun crimes. Since the U.K. and Australia have banned the ownership of most guns the crime rate has soared. Why is it that gun friendly states have the least amount of Crime? I'll make a deal with you. I won't try and take away your constitutional 1st amendment rights to print and distribute your safety alerts full of half-truths and omissions, and you don't mess with my 2nd amendment right to own any type of gun I want. Is it a deal?

sincerely,
Adam Frost
Phoenix Police Dept.

Wednesday, February 11, 2004

The Five-seveN® Tactical Pistol (Official FN Press Release)

02/11/2004 For Immediate Release - January 5, 2004
The Five-seveN® Tactical Pistol Delivers Total Package For Special Units And Tactical Teams
Designed to meet the needs of special units and tactical teams the FN Five-seveN® Tactical Pistol, the companion weapon to the FN P 90®, delivers unique, lightweight, ergonomic reliability to law enforcement agencies.
According to Rick DeMilt, Director of Sales and Marketing at FNH USA, Inc., "Tactical teams, special duty and patrol officers, now have a solution when confronted by dedicated, trained and motivated criminals armed with sophisticated military weapons and wearing body armor that stops conventional rounds."
"The criminal element today is highly determined, better armed and often well prepared for their encounter with the police. After studying these risks and liabilities that are associated with the rapidly changing law enforcement environment, FNH USA, Inc. has developed this handgun and cartridge system that provides officers with the required tactical advantage they need."
The Five-seveN Tactical, 5.7 x 28-mm caliber handgun, is a single-action trigger and features a delayed blowback operating principal. With an overall length of 8.2 inches, the barrel measures 4.82 inches, and weighs only 1.36 pounds with an empty magazine and 1.64 pounds with a loaded magazine. This tactical pistol also features an integrated accessory rail that allows for ease of mounting a light or laser for low light use.
The Five-seveN Tactical features a 20-round magazine with its short, crisp trigger pull, and allows for fast and accurate shooting by law enforcement. The low recoil of this tactical pistol allows for quick re-engagement of the weapon, when needed.
As an additional safety feature, the firing pin only fires when the trigger is intentionally pulled. The manual safety also can be used to block the trigger, if needed. The Polymer frame and slide cover of this pistol is ergonomic, incredibly light and easily maintained by officers. The shrouded hammer also will not catch on equipment and is protected from impacts.
About FNH USAFNH USA is the sales and marketing arm of FN Herstal, S.A., whose corporate mission is to become a global leader in the areas of defense, law enforcement and associated commercial markets, providing the highest quality products and the finest in training and logistical support. For more information on any of FNH USA's products, contact Marlene Smith at 703-288-1292, e-mail: mailto:info@fnhusa.com?subject=FN-SPS or visit http://www.policeone.com/ad/redirect.cfm?man=FNH&goto_url=www.fnhusa.com

Tuesday, February 10, 2004

FN P90® Triple Rail Delivers Tactical Innovation (Official FN Press Release)

02/10/2004For Immediate Release
FN P90® Triple Rail Delivers Tactical Innovation
MCLEAN, VA - FNH USA, Inc., a subsidiary of FN Herstal, S.A., Belgium, delivers for American law enforcement an ambidextrous weapon system for maximum versatility to meet the demands of any tactical situation. The FN P90TR is a revolutionary and quality weapon that features three Picatinny rails to aid officers in deploying a weapon built for convenience, reliability and extreme accuracy.
"Allowing the user to configure this weapon to mission requirements, the P90 TR gives maximum flexibility of weapon configuration and a wide choice of sights and accessories," according to Rick DeMilt, Director of Sales and Marketing.
The full-length top rail is equipped to take a wide variety of optical sights providing the most accurate shooting capabilities for officers. These sights can be positioned to give the correct eye relief while engaging the weapon and can be removed and reassembled without the loss of zero. This enables officers the convenience of multiple sights in both day- and low-light situations. By using a rail on the P90 TR to mount the sight, officers are able to rapidly add a night sight when required.
The two side rails allow for accessories such as tactical lights and external lasers. The use of these accessories will enhance the accuracy of shot for the officer. Accessories can be mounted on each side, or one accessory can be placed on the side that is most convenient to the user. The P90 TR is completely ambidextrous by allowing mounting of accessories to either side of the weapon.
Measuring 19.7-inches in overall length, 2.2-inches in width and 7.1-inches in height, the P90 TR has proven to be quit effective in various law enforcement situations. With an empty magazine, this weapon weighs only 5.7 pounds and is facilitated to hold a capacity of 50 rounds in the magazine. Officers are also able to choose between two firing modes: single shot and full automatic, allowing the P90 TR to be used in any number of police situations. It has a 900-rpm cyclic rate of fire and a maximum effective firing range of 200 meters.
About FNH USAFNH USA is the sales and marketing arm of FN Herstal, S.A., whose corporate mission is to become a global leader in the areas of defense, law enforcement and associated commercial markets, providing the highest quality products and the finest in training and logistical support. For more information on any of FNH USA's products, contact Marlene Smith at 703-288-1292, e-mail: mailto:info@fnhusa.com?subject=FN-SPS or visit http://www.policeone.com/ad/redirect.cfm?man=FNH&goto_url=www.fnhusa.com

Sunday, February 01, 2004

Doing business: the 2004 buying season gets underway as manufacturers present a first look at this year's new products - NASGW 30th Anniversary - Shoo

FNH USA's FN Five Seven IOM (Individual Officers Model) is now available to sworn law enforcement officers for duty use only. The Five Seven 5.7X28 polymer pistol features a single-action/internal-hammer delayed blow back design.

Thursday, January 01, 2004

The newest products continue to debut as manufacturers compete for market share - 2004 New Products - Shooting Industry, Jan, 2004 by Russ Thurman

FNH USA's FN Five Seven IOM (Individual Officers Model) is now available to sworn law enforcement officers for duty use only. The Five Seven 5.7X28 polymer pistol features a single-action/internal-hammer delayed blow back design with a hard-chromed, hammer-forged barrel. The Five Seven IOM comes complete with an integrated accessory rail for light/lasers and two 10-round magazines.

Monday, February 01, 1999

New firearms for law enforcement

New firearms for law enforcement: "New firearms for law enforcement

- February 1999

The Belgian arms manufacturer FN has launched a pistol and carbine for the police, using their new 5.7x28mm round. Following a number of notorious cases where the police have found themselves outgunned and unable to stop armed offenders wearing bullet roof vests, the task was to find a round which has high penetrative power but which also loses its momentum quickly upon impact, thus preventing injury to others. The FN innovation also extends to the use to which pistols are put, from a pure back-up function for personal protection, to a capability to engage an armed criminal in body armour. "

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