GS CUSTOM BULLETS - HV Bullets Technical Data: "Bullet
NumberWeightLengthNose LengthRequired TwistMinimum TwistRecommended Calibres based on
CIP and SAAMI standard specifications
grgmmInchmmInchmmInchmmInch
223035HV.056352.314.030.5529.00.35637714.854321722 Hornet
224035HV.058352.314.070.5549.00.35637714.8543217219 Zipper,222,223,5.6x50Mag,22-250,220 Swift
224040HV.057402.616.550.65211.40.45031912.5538115219 Zipper,222,223,5.6x50Mag,22-250,220 Swift
224050HV.096503.220.100.79112.00.4722541030512223 Remington
224060HV.086603.923.880.94013.00.5121937.62299Custom only"
Thursday, November 30, 2006
Friday, November 24, 2006
Re: how far can a bullet travel shot into water?
Re: how far can a bullet travel shot into water?: "Re: how far can a bullet travel shot into water?
Date: Thu Jul 12 13:06:51 2001
Posted By: Jaime Valencia-Rodríguez, Guest Researcher, Chemical Science and Technology Lab, NIST.
Area of science: Physics
ID: 991288529.Ph
Message:
Dear David:
Thank you for your question.
The problem you are addressing is an old one and it looks deceivingly
simple. We need to start mentioning Newton's Second Law. In the following
link there is a nice explanation about this subject:
ballistic trajectories
This page reads in part: 'In this lesson we will experiment with
computing and visualizing ballistic trajectories. A ballistic trajectory
is the path followed by an object which, after it is given some initial
velocity, travels only under the influence of gravity. For the purposes of
this lesson we will ignore the effects of air resistance.'
Well, ignoring air resistance, or, more generally, the medium resistance,
is a huge simplification. Nevertheless, we will go along for the moment.
The Ballistic Trajectory Problem
One of the first problems studied in an introductory physics class is the
ballistic trajectory problem. Let's assume that we are standing in a flat
field and that we throw a ball so that it starts out moving at some
velocity V > 0 and at some angle theta radians with the ground. At any
given time t, the ball's horizontal distance is given by
Vt cos (theta)
and its vertical height is given by
Vt sin(theta) - (1/2)gt^2
where g is the earth's gravitational constant, or 9.8 meters/sec/sec. This
assumes that the ball's initial ho"
Date: Thu Jul 12 13:06:51 2001
Posted By: Jaime Valencia-Rodríguez, Guest Researcher, Chemical Science and Technology Lab, NIST.
Area of science: Physics
ID: 991288529.Ph
Message:
Dear David:
Thank you for your question.
The problem you are addressing is an old one and it looks deceivingly
simple. We need to start mentioning Newton's Second Law. In the following
link there is a nice explanation about this subject:
ballistic trajectories
This page reads in part: 'In this lesson we will experiment with
computing and visualizing ballistic trajectories. A ballistic trajectory
is the path followed by an object which, after it is given some initial
velocity, travels only under the influence of gravity. For the purposes of
this lesson we will ignore the effects of air resistance.'
Well, ignoring air resistance, or, more generally, the medium resistance,
is a huge simplification. Nevertheless, we will go along for the moment.
The Ballistic Trajectory Problem
One of the first problems studied in an introductory physics class is the
ballistic trajectory problem. Let's assume that we are standing in a flat
field and that we throw a ball so that it starts out moving at some
velocity V > 0 and at some angle theta radians with the ground. At any
given time t, the ball's horizontal distance is given by
Vt cos (theta)
and its vertical height is given by
Vt sin(theta) - (1/2)gt^2
where g is the earth's gravitational constant, or 9.8 meters/sec/sec. This
assumes that the ball's initial ho"
Thursday, November 23, 2006
Other Featured Articles - Tactical Response Magazine
Other Featured Articles - Tactical Response Magazine: "FN Herstal’s Five-seveN Pistol
by Charlie Cutshaw
The Five-seveN pistol dates to the mid-1980s when FNH began design work on what would eventually become the 5.7x28mm P90 submachine gun (SMG). The 5.7x28mm cartridge was designed to defeat Soviet body armor of the time. The main defeat mechanism is the steel and aluminum cored SS190 bullet. Other bullets in the 5.7x28mm family do not have the SS190’s armor penetrating capabilities. With the demise of the Soviet Union and changing threats, the P90 vision shifted to special operations and law enforcement. "
[Follow the link for the rest of the article.]
by Charlie Cutshaw
The Five-seveN pistol dates to the mid-1980s when FNH began design work on what would eventually become the 5.7x28mm P90 submachine gun (SMG). The 5.7x28mm cartridge was designed to defeat Soviet body armor of the time. The main defeat mechanism is the steel and aluminum cored SS190 bullet. Other bullets in the 5.7x28mm family do not have the SS190’s armor penetrating capabilities. With the demise of the Soviet Union and changing threats, the P90 vision shifted to special operations and law enforcement. "
[Follow the link for the rest of the article.]
Urban Dictionary: P90
Urban Dictionary: P90: "1.P9048 up, 1 down
The FN P90: A submachine gun developed in Belgium. When found that standard issuede handguns and SMGs issued to tank crews were unable to go through armored targets, the P90 was developed. The P90 fires 5.7x28mm round, which is basically a scaled down version of the 5.56x45mm round standardized by NATO. The P90 is capable of going through most starndard forms of body armour at considerable ranges. It's allows for ambidextrous firing. Though the P90's bullet design allows for more range and penetration than that of other more standard SMGs (MP5, MAC 11, Uzi, etc.), its smaller caliber gives it less stoping power than even the NATO standard 9mm Luger round, because of this the P90 is less than ideal against unarmored targets. The P90 is in a way the epitome of the PDW, with its only real competition being the HK MP-7.
Play Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield to have an accurate portrayal of the follies of the P90.
by The Omnipresence Jan 4, 2004 email it
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2.P9014 up, 2 down
Manufactured by Fabrique Nationale, one of the top leading arms companies of Europe, the P90 is FN's answer to NATO's request for a compact Personal Defense Weapon system that will defeat armored targets, which in the modern battlefield is becoming more proliferous. A bullpup design, the P90 boasts complete ambidexterity, with ambidexterous fire selector, magazine release, and downward casing ejection. Most unique about the weapon is its 50-round magazine, mounted vertically parallel to the barrel, the cartridges are actually rotated 90 degrees in the magazine before entering the chamber. This round, the 5.7 x 28 mm (a necked-down 5.56 x "
The FN P90: A submachine gun developed in Belgium. When found that standard issuede handguns and SMGs issued to tank crews were unable to go through armored targets, the P90 was developed. The P90 fires 5.7x28mm round, which is basically a scaled down version of the 5.56x45mm round standardized by NATO. The P90 is capable of going through most starndard forms of body armour at considerable ranges. It's allows for ambidextrous firing. Though the P90's bullet design allows for more range and penetration than that of other more standard SMGs (MP5, MAC 11, Uzi, etc.), its smaller caliber gives it less stoping power than even the NATO standard 9mm Luger round, because of this the P90 is less than ideal against unarmored targets. The P90 is in a way the epitome of the PDW, with its only real competition being the HK MP-7.
Play Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield to have an accurate portrayal of the follies of the P90.
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2.P9014 up, 2 down
Manufactured by Fabrique Nationale, one of the top leading arms companies of Europe, the P90 is FN's answer to NATO's request for a compact Personal Defense Weapon system that will defeat armored targets, which in the modern battlefield is becoming more proliferous. A bullpup design, the P90 boasts complete ambidexterity, with ambidexterous fire selector, magazine release, and downward casing ejection. Most unique about the weapon is its 50-round magazine, mounted vertically parallel to the barrel, the cartridges are actually rotated 90 degrees in the magazine before entering the chamber. This round, the 5.7 x 28 mm (a necked-down 5.56 x "
Josh's Weblog: FN 5.7 Pistol
Josh's Weblog: FN 5.7 Pistol: "Josh's WeblogDeja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
FN 5.7 Pistol"
Follow the links for yet another perspective...
FN 5.7 Pistol"
Follow the links for yet another perspective...
Miscellaneous Questions
[See original article for a nice illustration and chart. Note that some of the information is factually incorrect. - SPG]
Miscellaneous Questions: "Q. How effective is the P90 'submachinegun' used on Stargate?
A. Despite all the manufacturer's hype and Hollywood glitz it is not as effective as they want you to believe. Weighing about 6.5 pounds with a loaded 50 rd magazine, it was originally designed as a 'personal defense weapon' for rear echelon troops and vehicle crew members that would be easier to to shoot effectively than a handgun.
The SS190 ball penetrates between 11 and 13.5 inches of gelatin, but the wound resulting from this projectile is a relatively small. The permanent cavity at its largest is either a .22 cal hole or simply a . 22 caliber flat slit the length of the projectile (2.1 cm) caused by the projectile tumbling. Although the 5.7 x 28 mm SS190 round penetrates soft body armor, its wound trauma incapacitation potential is at best like a .22 LR or .22 Magnum. Even 9mm NATO FMJ makes a larger wound--and I'm sure you know of the awe inspiring incapacitation potential of M882 FMJ 9 mm ball from the M9. While it's stated 'effective' range is listed as 200 meters this is pushing things a bit. While it can deliver a severe wound at that range, even up close it lacks the 'stopping' ability of most regular pistol rounds.
The 'civilian' 40 gr softpoint 5.7 mm rounds may be a bit more effective in creating a permanent cavity but penetration would be reduced. I haven't seen any tests of this round, but they too will reportedly penetrate some body armor.
The P90 is also available in a non-fully automatic civilian version with a 16' barrel as opposed to the 10' military version. The 16' barrel gives about 140 f/s greater velocity with the SS197 ammunition. Below is a table of currently available ammunition. Only the now discontinued SS196 and SS197 variants are available on the civilian market.
SS190SS191SS193 SubsonicSS195LFSS196SRS"
Miscellaneous Questions: "Q. How effective is the P90 'submachinegun' used on Stargate?
A. Despite all the manufacturer's hype and Hollywood glitz it is not as effective as they want you to believe. Weighing about 6.5 pounds with a loaded 50 rd magazine, it was originally designed as a 'personal defense weapon' for rear echelon troops and vehicle crew members that would be easier to to shoot effectively than a handgun.
The SS190 ball penetrates between 11 and 13.5 inches of gelatin, but the wound resulting from this projectile is a relatively small. The permanent cavity at its largest is either a .22 cal hole or simply a . 22 caliber flat slit the length of the projectile (2.1 cm) caused by the projectile tumbling. Although the 5.7 x 28 mm SS190 round penetrates soft body armor, its wound trauma incapacitation potential is at best like a .22 LR or .22 Magnum. Even 9mm NATO FMJ makes a larger wound--and I'm sure you know of the awe inspiring incapacitation potential of M882 FMJ 9 mm ball from the M9. While it's stated 'effective' range is listed as 200 meters this is pushing things a bit. While it can deliver a severe wound at that range, even up close it lacks the 'stopping' ability of most regular pistol rounds.
The 'civilian' 40 gr softpoint 5.7 mm rounds may be a bit more effective in creating a permanent cavity but penetration would be reduced. I haven't seen any tests of this round, but they too will reportedly penetrate some body armor.
The P90 is also available in a non-fully automatic civilian version with a 16' barrel as opposed to the 10' military version. The 16' barrel gives about 140 f/s greater velocity with the SS197 ammunition. Below is a table of currently available ammunition. Only the now discontinued SS196 and SS197 variants are available on the civilian market.
SS190SS191SS193 SubsonicSS195LFSS196SRS"
Wednesday, November 22, 2006
Monday, November 20, 2006
Laptop-Notebook-Palm-PDA-Tablet & Smart Phone Carrying Cases
An 21st century alternative to the violin case?...
Laptop-Notebook-Palm-PDA-Tablet & Smart Phone Carrying Cases: "Monster Laptops
Can't find a Case to fit the new Super-MAX size Notebooks, such as Dell XPS M2010 ?
Acer Aspire 9800 or Acer Aspire 9804 or 9810?
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Laptop-Notebook-Palm-PDA-Tablet & Smart Phone Carrying Cases: "Monster Laptops
Can't find a Case to fit the new Super-MAX size Notebooks, such as Dell XPS M2010 ?
Acer Aspire 9800 or Acer Aspire 9804 or 9810?
The Pouch already has them covered! Call
1-800-727-6824 in the USA & Canada or E-MAIL The Pouch today. We Can Do it! "
Sunday, November 19, 2006
FN FiveseveN Forums - Using the 550 or 650?
Posted on FiveseveNForum.Com by brentv:
FN FiveseveN Forums - Using the 550 or 650?: "I use the Dillon 550 with Hornady dies. There is a caliber conversion available from Al Newell for $80 + shipping. This all works well.
Al Newell
6901 W. Conifer LN.
Las Vegas, NV. 89145
702-363-6694
"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Using the 550 or 650?: "I use the Dillon 550 with Hornady dies. There is a caliber conversion available from Al Newell for $80 + shipping. This all works well.
Al Newell
6901 W. Conifer LN.
Las Vegas, NV. 89145
702-363-6694
"
Thursday, November 16, 2006
Wound ballistic simulation:
A less skewed view of the Five-seveN related to Officer safety
Skewed view of the Five-seveN
Opposed to PLEAA
As usual, gun-control measures cost more innocent lives than they save. This one is no
exception. Instead of banning the FN 5.7 or any other gun, legislators should remove barriers to
the civilian possession and use of the latest technology in weaponry. The life they save may be
yours.
Benedict LaRosa is a historian and writer with undergraduate and graduate degrees in history
from the U.S. Air Force Academy and Duke University, respectively.
This article was originally published in April 2005.
exception. Instead of banning the FN 5.7 or any other gun, legislators should remove barriers to
the civilian possession and use of the latest technology in weaponry. The life they save may be
yours.
Benedict LaRosa is a historian and writer with undergraduate and graduate degrees in history
from the U.S. Air Force Academy and Duke University, respectively.
This article was originally published in April 2005.
Secure Weapon System (SWS) Phase I Final Submission
Gun Show Review.com - All about Gun Shows
Gun Show Review.com - All about Gun Shows: "The FN PS90
at the 2006 SHOT Show"
Discover new shooting sports opportunities with the PS9O. Based on the P90 and built around FN’s revolutionary 5.7x28mm ammunition, the PS9O provides a compact, lightweight and completely ambidextrous firearm capable of fulfilling numerous security, personal defense, competition and recreational shooting roles.The 10- or 30-round box magazine runs horizontally across the top of the PS9O while fired cases are ejected downward where they cannot interfere with the user. The extended 6.04” barrel and closed bolt operation give the PS9O outstanding accuraqc while the non-magnifying optical sight makes it easy to locate and stay on target Recoil is reduced by the integral muzzle brake.
at the 2006 SHOT Show"
Discover new shooting sports opportunities with the PS9O. Based on the P90 and built around FN’s revolutionary 5.7x28mm ammunition, the PS9O provides a compact, lightweight and completely ambidextrous firearm capable of fulfilling numerous security, personal defense, competition and recreational shooting roles.The 10- or 30-round box magazine runs horizontally across the top of the PS9O while fired cases are ejected downward where they cannot interfere with the user. The extended 6.04” barrel and closed bolt operation give the PS9O outstanding accuraqc while the non-magnifying optical sight makes it easy to locate and stay on target Recoil is reduced by the integral muzzle brake.
Bullpups In Civies
Bullpups In Civies: "FNH USA Unleashes The PS90 & FS2000
These radically styled, compact semi-automatics from FN spring from a heritage of innovation that redefined the state of art in combat carbines. They are ambidextrous, fun to shoot and, best of all, available on the civilian market today. "
Another article
These radically styled, compact semi-automatics from FN spring from a heritage of innovation that redefined the state of art in combat carbines. They are ambidextrous, fun to shoot and, best of all, available on the civilian market today. "
Another article
Where Next For PDWs
Where Next For PDWs: "Where Next For PDWs?
© Anthony G Williams
This is an edited version of an article which first appeared in Jane's Defence Weekly on 15th February 2006"
© Anthony G Williams
This is an edited version of an article which first appeared in Jane's Defence Weekly on 15th February 2006"
Loading Data for 5.7x28
Loading Data for 5.7x28: "Loading Data for 5.7x28
Posted By: richard
Date: Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 12:45 pm "
Posted By: richard
Date: Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 12:45 pm "
FN 5.7X28 Preliminary eval
FN 5.7X28 Preliminary eval: "FN 5.7X28 Preliminary eval
Posted By: Ronjo
Date: Friday, 10 March 2006, at 7:21 pm "
Posted By: Ronjo
Date: Friday, 10 March 2006, at 7:21 pm "
Wednesday, November 15, 2006
ArmsLocker Forums - Reloading the 5.7x28
LONG thread on reloading the 5.7x28mm
ArmsLocker Forums - Reloading the 5.7x28: " ArmsLocker Forums > Arms & Armament > Ammunition & Reloading
Reloading the 5.7x28 "
ArmsLocker Forums - Reloading the 5.7x28: " ArmsLocker Forums > Arms & Armament > Ammunition & Reloading
Reloading the 5.7x28 "
GunBroker.com Item 55404745 [Ends Sep-04-06 12:59:53 AM] FN PS90 "SS91" bullets- SS190 , not SS192 SS195
GunBroker.com Item 55404745 [Ends Sep-04-06 12:59:53 AM] FN PS90 "SS91" bullets- SS190 , not SS192 SS195:
"These are 50 newly manufactured 5.7 x 28 mm (22 Caliber) .224 bullets designated as 'SS91'. They are a 33gr. Nickel Plated-STEEL TIP PENETRATOR with a polymer core-FMJBT projectile for use in reloading the 5.7 x 28 round. They have nearly the same specs (+1 gr. in weight) and ballistic performance as the FN SS190 round. Guaranteed velocity of 2,250 ft/s with the charge weight of 7.0 grains of RAMSHOTS True Blue powder. DO NOT EXCEED 7.0 grains!!!!! http://www.ramshot.com/powders/ I CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF DAMAGE OCCURES WITH USE OF OTHER POWDERS OR EXCEEDING THE RECOMMEND CHARGE WEIGHT !!!!! I have personally been firing these rounds for the last several months with very successful results. They are extremely accurate and there is ABSOLUTLY NO YAWING of the bullet during flight. A 3 day from the date received full refund return policy- If more than 3 rounds have been fired or are missing the policy is VOID. Buyer pays for return shipping. Buyer must be 18 years of age and provide a copy of their ID by email, fax or with the payment. Contact/Payment must be made/received within ten days of auction ending. I accept only Money Orders & Cashiers Check. I charge actual shipping. A signed copy of my Type 06 FFL “Manufacture of Ammunition for Firearms” will be included with the shipping of all ammunition. These projectiles are only intended for use with the PS90 weapon "
"These are 50 newly manufactured 5.7 x 28 mm (22 Caliber) .224 bullets designated as 'SS91'. They are a 33gr. Nickel Plated-STEEL TIP PENETRATOR with a polymer core-FMJBT projectile for use in reloading the 5.7 x 28 round. They have nearly the same specs (+1 gr. in weight) and ballistic performance as the FN SS190 round. Guaranteed velocity of 2,250 ft/s with the charge weight of 7.0 grains of RAMSHOTS True Blue powder. DO NOT EXCEED 7.0 grains!!!!! http://www.ramshot.com/powders/ I CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF DAMAGE OCCURES WITH USE OF OTHER POWDERS OR EXCEEDING THE RECOMMEND CHARGE WEIGHT !!!!! I have personally been firing these rounds for the last several months with very successful results. They are extremely accurate and there is ABSOLUTLY NO YAWING of the bullet during flight. A 3 day from the date received full refund return policy- If more than 3 rounds have been fired or are missing the policy is VOID. Buyer pays for return shipping. Buyer must be 18 years of age and provide a copy of their ID by email, fax or with the payment. Contact/Payment must be made/received within ten days of auction ending. I accept only Money Orders & Cashiers Check. I charge actual shipping. A signed copy of my Type 06 FFL “Manufacture of Ammunition for Firearms” will be included with the shipping of all ammunition. These projectiles are only intended for use with the PS90 weapon "
eBay: 22 CAL .223 SS91 5.7 x 28 mm - NICKEL PLATED BULLETS (item 290038801505 end time Oct-18-06 21:02:54 PDT)
eBay: 22 CAL .223 SS91 5.7 x 28 mm - NICKEL PLATED BULLETS (item 290038801505 end time Oct-18-06 21:02:54 PDT):
"These are 250 newly manufactured 5.7 x 28 mm (22 Caliber) .224 bullets designated as 'SS91'. They are a 33gr. Nickel Plated-STEEL TIP PENETRATOR with a polymer core-FMJBT projectile for use in reloading the 5.7 x 28mm round.
.
These SS91’s are NEARLY IDENTICAL to the FN SS190 32gr bullet. They both contain the same Steel Tip Penetrator; only difference is that the SS91 is heaver by 1gr. in weight and has a polymer core. The SS190 has an aluminum core.
Guaranteed velocity of 2,250 ft/s with the charge weight of 7.0 grains of RAMSHOTS True Blue powder. DO NOT EXCEED 7.0 grains!!!!!
http://www.ramshot.com/powders/
Reference link to obtain more info about the 5.7 x 28 round: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7_x_28_mm
I CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF DAMAGE OCCURES WITH USE OF OTHER POWDERS OR EXCEEDING THE RECOMMEND CHARGE WEIGHT.
I have personally been firing these rounds for the last several months with very successful results. They are extremely accurate and there is ABSOLUTLY NO YAWING of the bullet during flight
Contact/Payment must be made/received within ten days of auction ending. I only accept Money Orders & Cashiers Check. I charge actual shipping. Once funds have been received a tracking number will be provided.
A signed copy of my Type 06 FFL “Manufacture of Ammunition for Firearms” will be included with the shipping of all ammunition.
These projectiles are intended for use with the PS90 weapon"
"These are 250 newly manufactured 5.7 x 28 mm (22 Caliber) .224 bullets designated as 'SS91'. They are a 33gr. Nickel Plated-STEEL TIP PENETRATOR with a polymer core-FMJBT projectile for use in reloading the 5.7 x 28mm round.
.
These SS91’s are NEARLY IDENTICAL to the FN SS190 32gr bullet. They both contain the same Steel Tip Penetrator; only difference is that the SS91 is heaver by 1gr. in weight and has a polymer core. The SS190 has an aluminum core.
Guaranteed velocity of 2,250 ft/s with the charge weight of 7.0 grains of RAMSHOTS True Blue powder. DO NOT EXCEED 7.0 grains!!!!!
http://www.ramshot.com/powders/
Reference link to obtain more info about the 5.7 x 28 round: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7_x_28_mm
I CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF DAMAGE OCCURES WITH USE OF OTHER POWDERS OR EXCEEDING THE RECOMMEND CHARGE WEIGHT.
I have personally been firing these rounds for the last several months with very successful results. They are extremely accurate and there is ABSOLUTLY NO YAWING of the bullet during flight
Contact/Payment must be made/received within ten days of auction ending. I only accept Money Orders & Cashiers Check. I charge actual shipping. Once funds have been received a tracking number will be provided.
A signed copy of my Type 06 FFL “Manufacture of Ammunition for Firearms” will be included with the shipping of all ammunition.
These projectiles are intended for use with the PS90 weapon"
GunBroker.com Item 58645916 [Ends Oct-22-06 01:46:03 AM] PS90 5.7x28 SS91-SS190 ammo, not SS192,SS195,SS197
GunBroker.com Item 58645916 [Ends Oct-22-06 01:46:03 AM]
PS90 5.7x28 SS91-SS190 ammo, not SS192,SS195,SS197: "FN 5.7x28 PS90 'SS91' round that is EQUAL to the SS190 round. This is a box (50rds) of unfired FN SS197SR rounds that have a newly manufactured 33gr. Nickel Plated -STEEL TIP PENETRATOR -FMJBT bullet labeled as 'SS91' that is now loaded in place of the factory 40gr. Hornady V-Max bullet. These SS91’s are NEARLY IDENTICAL to the 32gr. bullet of the now 'CIVILIAN RESTRICTED' SS190 round. They both contain the same Steel Tip Penetrator; only difference is that the SS91 is heaver by 1gr. in weight and has a polymer core. The SS190 has an aluminum core. This SS197SR/SS91 round currently has the unfired factory primer, casing and powder (charge weight of 5.4 gr.) yielding a velocity of 2,150 ft/s compared to the 1,950ft/s with the original 40gr. V-Max bullet. The SS190's velocity was 2,350ft/s. I have personally been firing these rounds for the last several months with very successful results. They are extremely accurate and there is ABSOLUTLY NO YAWING of the bullet during flight. Also included for reloading is the original 40gr. Hornady V-Max bullets and............. A 5 day from the date received full refund return policy- If more than 3 rounds have been fired or are missing the policy is VOID. Buyer pays for return shipping. Buyer must be 18 years of age and provide a copy of their ID by email, fax or with the payment. Contact/Payment must be made/received within ten days of auction ending. I accept only Money Orders & Cashiers Check. I charge actual shipping. A signed copy of my Type 06 FFL “Manufacture of Ammunition for Firearms” will be included with the shipping of all ammunition. Once payment has been received a shipping tracking number will provided via email. "
Monday, November 13, 2006
A WTS/WTB ad
WTB: 1st generation P90 magazine from the early 90's for use with SS90 ammunition.
This ammunition is longer than the current 5.7 ammo and the early magazine was flat on both sides.
The current P90 magazine has an indentation on the left.
WTB: P90 barrel
Please email me with ANY rare P90 items you have for sale.
This ammunition is longer than the current 5.7 ammo and the early magazine was flat on both sides.
The current P90 magazine has an indentation on the left.
WTB: P90 barrel
Please email me with ANY rare P90 items you have for sale.
Friday, November 10, 2006
INDUSTRIAL DYE FINISH (polymer parts)
INDUSTRIAL DYE FINISH (polymer parts)
Complete HK USC in Black - $60 (3 days turn around!)
Complete HK SL8-1 in Black - $110 (3 days turn around!)
HK SL8-1 Upper Receiver only - $45 (3 days turn around!)
Steyr AUG/vertical grip - $ 65.00 (3 days turn around!)
FN PS90 - $60
FN FS200 - $75
(PRICES DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING/INSURANCE BACK TO YOU)
3 days OR less is the Turn Around
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Complete HK USC in Black - $60 (3 days turn around!)
Complete HK SL8-1 in Black - $110 (3 days turn around!)
HK SL8-1 Upper Receiver only - $45 (3 days turn around!)
Steyr AUG/vertical grip - $ 65.00 (3 days turn around!)
FN PS90 - $60
FN FS200 - $75
(PRICES DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING/INSURANCE BACK TO YOU)
3 days OR less is the Turn Around
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FN PS 90 SBR Black (NIB/UNFIRED)
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FN PS 90 SBR Black (NIB/UNFIRED) (Transferable to Civilians)
Registered Short Barreled Rifle with a Bi-lock system and ready for your sound suppressor.
This is the Semi Auto version of the P90 Sub Machine Gun by FN Herstal, Belgium .
Comes with Manual, warning sheet one 50 rounds magazine, original optical sight.
HDPS package also includes professional dye job, another EXTRA 50 rounds magazine and a Tri Rail System combo, rails have Tactical numbers Laser engraved also you can choose only the top rail, left or right or both rails mounting. See more PICs of this tri rail on parts section.
$2,585.00
FN PS 90 SBR Black (NIB/UNFIRED) (Transferable to Civilians)
Registered Short Barreled Rifle with a Bi-lock system and ready for your sound suppressor.
This is the Semi Auto version of the P90 Sub Machine Gun by FN Herstal, Belgium .
Comes with Manual, warning sheet one 50 rounds magazine, original optical sight.
HDPS package also includes professional dye job, another EXTRA 50 rounds magazine and a Tri Rail System combo, rails have Tactical numbers Laser engraved also you can choose only the top rail, left or right or both rails mounting. See more PICs of this tri rail on parts section.
$2,585.00
FN PS90/P90 Tri Rail Combo
FN PS90/P90 Tri Rail Combo - Versatility at most, you mount what you need, top only or top and right side or all 3 rails, they are tactical numbers laser engraved. $165 (in stock)
PS90 ORIGINAL 16" Barrel and Flash Suppressor/Sleeve
PS90 ORIGINAL 16" Barrel and Flash Suppressor/Sleeve
Genuine FN, not drilled, is a take off from a NIB PS90 by our exclusive system, if you ruin your barrel and looking for a replacement on an almost impossible item to get, here is your chance!
$395.00 (in stock)
Genuine FN, not drilled, is a take off from a NIB PS90 by our exclusive system, if you ruin your barrel and looking for a replacement on an almost impossible item to get, here is your chance!
$395.00 (in stock)
Thursday, November 09, 2006
HDPS Barrel Work for FN PS90
Barrel Work for FN PS90
1 - Include Removal and installation of short barrel -$25 (just cutting barrel and sleeve)
2 - Include Removal and installation of short barrel -$95 (saving barrel, sleeve and pin)*
* Note - We will try to save your barrel, sometimes for some reason some barrels will not turn even after the pin is out (lock thread used at factory or else) in the event we cannot save your barrel we will cut it and you will be charged only $25. Was noticed the brand new PS90 with un-shot barrels will turn easily out.
1 - Include Removal and installation of short barrel -$25 (just cutting barrel and sleeve)
2 - Include Removal and installation of short barrel -$95 (saving barrel, sleeve and pin)*
* Note - We will try to save your barrel, sometimes for some reason some barrels will not turn even after the pin is out (lock thread used at factory or else) in the event we cannot save your barrel we will cut it and you will be charged only $25. Was noticed the brand new PS90 with un-shot barrels will turn easily out.
Shrivenham Index
Welcome to the Shrivenham Index
This is an index to defence journal literature produced by indexing significant articles from the Library�s holdings of current defence, management, engineering, and applied science journals. The service provides abstracts of articles and access to the full text online where possible.
42. The Duellists (Full text available via publisher or 3rd party website)
Gourley, S.; Kemp, I.
Jane's Defence Weekly (ISSN: 02653818), Volume 40 Issue 21 Nov 2003, pp26-28
Briefing on personal defence weapons. Report on two competing personal defence weapon calibres - the FN Herstal 5.7 x 28mm cartridge and Heckler and the 4.6 x 30mm ammunition developed by Heckler and Koch, BAE Systems and RO Defence. The success of the PDW calibres will be determined by the military and police users.
43. NATO PDW Standardisation : Watershed Ahead? (Hardcopy available in DCMT library)
Bonsignore, E.
Military Technology (ISSN: 07223226), Volume 27 Issue 11 2003, pp18-23
Article on NATO's attempts to standardise the calibre for a personal defence weapon. Despite deciding that a new self defence weapon is needed, years of discussions have failed to provide the answer on what type of ammunition to use.
This is an index to defence journal literature produced by indexing significant articles from the Library�s holdings of current defence, management, engineering, and applied science journals. The service provides abstracts of articles and access to the full text online where possible.
42. The Duellists (Full text available via publisher or 3rd party website)
Gourley, S.; Kemp, I.
Jane's Defence Weekly (ISSN: 02653818), Volume 40 Issue 21 Nov 2003, pp26-28
Briefing on personal defence weapons. Report on two competing personal defence weapon calibres - the FN Herstal 5.7 x 28mm cartridge and Heckler and the 4.6 x 30mm ammunition developed by Heckler and Koch, BAE Systems and RO Defence. The success of the PDW calibres will be determined by the military and police users.
43. NATO PDW Standardisation : Watershed Ahead? (Hardcopy available in DCMT library)
Bonsignore, E.
Military Technology (ISSN: 07223226), Volume 27 Issue 11 2003, pp18-23
Article on NATO's attempts to standardise the calibre for a personal defence weapon. Despite deciding that a new self defence weapon is needed, years of discussions have failed to provide the answer on what type of ammunition to use.
Multidisciplinary Postdoc research proposal:
Multidisciplinary Postdoc research proposal: Smart hand-held objects
Pieter Hartel (INF) Cees Slump (EL) Raymond Veldhuis (EL)
November 8, 2001
PDF document
Pieter Hartel (INF) Cees Slump (EL) Raymond Veldhuis (EL)
November 8, 2001
PDF document
Belgian arms producer develops 'smart gun'
Belgian arms producer develops 'smart gun'
BY REUTERS
[Brussels, Belgium Reuters News Service, 5 June 2002] - A Belgian company has made a prototype of a "smart gun" that can only be used by its owner, developed under contract with the US government to make it harder for criminals to use stolen weapons.
"The idea is to make a gun fire when the owner wants it to and not to when the owner does not want to," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for FN Herstal, which has received about $20 million from the US Department of Justice.
Gun control is a hot issue in the US, where about 30 000 people die every year from gun-related injuries.
A 1994 FBI study showed one in six police officers who died in the line of duty were killed with their own gun after being disarmed by a suspect.
Sauvage said the system now being tested uses an electronic recognition device attached to the owner, which the gun would be able to recognise. He said production could start in three years.
The "smart gun" technology could have wider uses than in policing, such as gun control at shooting galleries or to reduce hunting accidents.
"A weapon could for example be programmed to shoot on a Saturday morning between 10 and 12am in the hands of Mr X at the shooting gallery of Herstal in the east-west direction," Sauvage said.
FN Herstal is based in the southern Belgian town of Herstal, near Liege, and has branches in several countries, including FN Manufacturing in the United States.
The Belgian arms producer acknowledges that many commercial and legal problems still need to be addressed, including the extra cost of the new weapons system. The cost of such a weapon may be about 20% more than conventional guns.
BY REUTERS
[Brussels, Belgium Reuters News Service, 5 June 2002] - A Belgian company has made a prototype of a "smart gun" that can only be used by its owner, developed under contract with the US government to make it harder for criminals to use stolen weapons.
"The idea is to make a gun fire when the owner wants it to and not to when the owner does not want to," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for FN Herstal, which has received about $20 million from the US Department of Justice.
Gun control is a hot issue in the US, where about 30 000 people die every year from gun-related injuries.
A 1994 FBI study showed one in six police officers who died in the line of duty were killed with their own gun after being disarmed by a suspect.
Sauvage said the system now being tested uses an electronic recognition device attached to the owner, which the gun would be able to recognise. He said production could start in three years.
The "smart gun" technology could have wider uses than in policing, such as gun control at shooting galleries or to reduce hunting accidents.
"A weapon could for example be programmed to shoot on a Saturday morning between 10 and 12am in the hands of Mr X at the shooting gallery of Herstal in the east-west direction," Sauvage said.
FN Herstal is based in the southern Belgian town of Herstal, near Liege, and has branches in several countries, including FN Manufacturing in the United States.
The Belgian arms producer acknowledges that many commercial and legal problems still need to be addressed, including the extra cost of the new weapons system. The cost of such a weapon may be about 20% more than conventional guns.
Hey, you're not my trigger finger!
Hey, you're not my trigger finger!
June 04 2002 at 07:33PM
Brussels - A Belgian company has made a prototype of a "smart gun" that can only be used by its owner, developed under contract with the US government to make it harder for criminals to use stolen weapons.
"The idea is to make a gun fire when the owner wants it to and not to when the owner doesn't want to," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for FN Herstal, which has received about R200-million from the US Department of Justice.
Gun control is a hot issue in the United States, where about 30 000 people die every year from gun-related injuries.
A 1994 FBI study showed one in six police officers who died in the line of duty were killed with their own gun after being disarmed by a suspect.
Sauvage said the system now being tested uses an electronic recognition device attached to the owner, which the gun would be able to recognise. He said production could start in three years.
The "smart gun" technology could have wider uses than in policing, such as gun control at shooting galleries or to reduce hunting accidents.
"A weapon could for example be programmed to shoot on a Saturday morning between 10 and 12am in the hands of Mr X at the shooting gallery of Herstal in the east-west direction," Sauvage said.
FN Herstal is based in the southern Belgian town of Herstal, near Liege, and has branches in several countries, including FN Manufacturing Inc in the United States.
The Belgian arms producer acknowledges that many commercial and legal problems still need to be addressed, including the extra cost of the new weapons system. The cost of such a weapon may be about 20 percent more than conventional guns.
June 04 2002 at 07:33PM
Brussels - A Belgian company has made a prototype of a "smart gun" that can only be used by its owner, developed under contract with the US government to make it harder for criminals to use stolen weapons.
"The idea is to make a gun fire when the owner wants it to and not to when the owner doesn't want to," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for FN Herstal, which has received about R200-million from the US Department of Justice.
Gun control is a hot issue in the United States, where about 30 000 people die every year from gun-related injuries.
A 1994 FBI study showed one in six police officers who died in the line of duty were killed with their own gun after being disarmed by a suspect.
Sauvage said the system now being tested uses an electronic recognition device attached to the owner, which the gun would be able to recognise. He said production could start in three years.
The "smart gun" technology could have wider uses than in policing, such as gun control at shooting galleries or to reduce hunting accidents.
"A weapon could for example be programmed to shoot on a Saturday morning between 10 and 12am in the hands of Mr X at the shooting gallery of Herstal in the east-west direction," Sauvage said.
FN Herstal is based in the southern Belgian town of Herstal, near Liege, and has branches in several countries, including FN Manufacturing Inc in the United States.
The Belgian arms producer acknowledges that many commercial and legal problems still need to be addressed, including the extra cost of the new weapons system. The cost of such a weapon may be about 20 percent more than conventional guns.
"World Policy Group" profile of FN
FN Manufacturing Inc./FN Herstal
The Herstal Group
Company History and Products
The Herstal Group is comprised of the parent company Herstal, and its two main subsidiaries: FN Herstal and Browning and US Repeating Arms Company. The Herstal Group has offices in Liège, Belgium, as well as in nine other European countries, North America, and Asia. Each subsidiary has its own research, development and manufacturing components, and its own global distribution networks. FN Herstal's products are used by the Armed Forces of more than 100 countries.
Browning of Morgan, Utah produces shotguns, rifles, handguns and the Browning M1919 A4, A6. US Repeating Arms Company, located in New Haven, CT, specializes in Winchester rifles and shotguns.
It is no coincidence that FN Manufacturing, the company's main US facility, is in South Carolina, the home state of former Senate Armed Services Chairman, Strom Thurmond, and current House Armed Services Chairman, Floyd Spence. FN Manufacturing produces small caliber weapons and machine guns such as M16, M240, M249, SAW, and the 49 pistol for military and law enforcement markets. FN Manufacturing is one of the US Army's prime contractors of small arms.
FN Herstal produces:
M16A2 5.56mm assault rifle (NATO standard) (also produced by Colt Manufacturing)
M249 Minimi 5.56mm machine gun
FN MAG (NATO standard machine gun)
M240 7.62 x 51mm armor machine gun
5.56 Special Purpose Weapon (SPW) - a light weight machine gun
FN FAL automatic rifle - manufactured under licensed production agreements in Argentina, Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Israel, India, Mexico, South Africa, and Venezuela
P90 submachine gun
FiveseveN pistol - FN's latest design of a semi-automatic pistol
5.7x28mm ammunition
Sales/Proposed Sales
In both 1999 and 1998, FN Manufacturing of South Carolina received approximately $32 million in contracts from the US Department of Defense for the purchase of M249s, M60s and M16s. As well, FN Herstal's 5.56 Special Purpose weapon has been selected by the US Special Operations Command as their new light weight machine gun. The US ordered 425 of the weapons with a potential for up to 2,500.
Through years of US arms sales and military aid, the M16 rifle has ended up in the arsenals of more than 50 countries, including Cambodia, Guatemala, Haiti, Lebanon, Liberia, Sri Lanka, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. The M16 has also been produced in Singapore, South Korea, and the Philippines.
In addition to FN Herstal's facilities in Europe, North America, and Asia, FN assault rifles are manufactured under license in Indonesia. While the US has a long history of supplying weapons to the Indonesian military, reports from the scene have documented the use of M16 rifles by the anti-independence death squads (set up by the Indonesian military) against the people of East Timor. FN Herstal also assisted in building Eldoret, an ammunition factory in Kenya. The factory produces 20 million 7.62 NATO-standard rounds of ammunition a year which is used throughout war-torn Central Africa and the Great Lakes region.
Furthermore, the Belgian government was recently in the middle of controversy over the shipment of 500 P-90 machine guns and 500,000 rounds of ammunition destined for a private firm in Mexico. The P-90 was designed for the use of NATO military forces, governments and law enforcement and, because of its 'lethality', the Belgian government made assurances that it would never be exported to any private institutions or companies. IANSA reported that the "super weapons" have the ability to penetrate 48 layers of the anti-ballistic material used in bullet-proof vests, weigh only three kilograms when loaded, and can store up to 50 bullets. To date, the Belgian Foreign Minister has temporarily suspended the transfer, but has defended the sale saying that the P-90s were actually destined for the Mexican police. The end user certificate, however, did not mention the police, only the private company which is a representative of FN in Mexico.
The Herstal Group
Company History and Products
The Herstal Group is comprised of the parent company Herstal, and its two main subsidiaries: FN Herstal and Browning and US Repeating Arms Company. The Herstal Group has offices in Liège, Belgium, as well as in nine other European countries, North America, and Asia. Each subsidiary has its own research, development and manufacturing components, and its own global distribution networks. FN Herstal's products are used by the Armed Forces of more than 100 countries.
Browning of Morgan, Utah produces shotguns, rifles, handguns and the Browning M1919 A4, A6. US Repeating Arms Company, located in New Haven, CT, specializes in Winchester rifles and shotguns.
It is no coincidence that FN Manufacturing, the company's main US facility, is in South Carolina, the home state of former Senate Armed Services Chairman, Strom Thurmond, and current House Armed Services Chairman, Floyd Spence. FN Manufacturing produces small caliber weapons and machine guns such as M16, M240, M249, SAW, and the 49 pistol for military and law enforcement markets. FN Manufacturing is one of the US Army's prime contractors of small arms.
FN Herstal produces:
M16A2 5.56mm assault rifle (NATO standard) (also produced by Colt Manufacturing)
M249 Minimi 5.56mm machine gun
FN MAG (NATO standard machine gun)
M240 7.62 x 51mm armor machine gun
5.56 Special Purpose Weapon (SPW) - a light weight machine gun
FN FAL automatic rifle - manufactured under licensed production agreements in Argentina, Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Israel, India, Mexico, South Africa, and Venezuela
P90 submachine gun
FiveseveN pistol - FN's latest design of a semi-automatic pistol
5.7x28mm ammunition
Sales/Proposed Sales
In both 1999 and 1998, FN Manufacturing of South Carolina received approximately $32 million in contracts from the US Department of Defense for the purchase of M249s, M60s and M16s. As well, FN Herstal's 5.56 Special Purpose weapon has been selected by the US Special Operations Command as their new light weight machine gun. The US ordered 425 of the weapons with a potential for up to 2,500.
Through years of US arms sales and military aid, the M16 rifle has ended up in the arsenals of more than 50 countries, including Cambodia, Guatemala, Haiti, Lebanon, Liberia, Sri Lanka, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. The M16 has also been produced in Singapore, South Korea, and the Philippines.
In addition to FN Herstal's facilities in Europe, North America, and Asia, FN assault rifles are manufactured under license in Indonesia. While the US has a long history of supplying weapons to the Indonesian military, reports from the scene have documented the use of M16 rifles by the anti-independence death squads (set up by the Indonesian military) against the people of East Timor. FN Herstal also assisted in building Eldoret, an ammunition factory in Kenya. The factory produces 20 million 7.62 NATO-standard rounds of ammunition a year which is used throughout war-torn Central Africa and the Great Lakes region.
Furthermore, the Belgian government was recently in the middle of controversy over the shipment of 500 P-90 machine guns and 500,000 rounds of ammunition destined for a private firm in Mexico. The P-90 was designed for the use of NATO military forces, governments and law enforcement and, because of its 'lethality', the Belgian government made assurances that it would never be exported to any private institutions or companies. IANSA reported that the "super weapons" have the ability to penetrate 48 layers of the anti-ballistic material used in bullet-proof vests, weigh only three kilograms when loaded, and can store up to 50 bullets. To date, the Belgian Foreign Minister has temporarily suspended the transfer, but has defended the sale saying that the P-90s were actually destined for the Mexican police. The end user certificate, however, did not mention the police, only the private company which is a representative of FN in Mexico.
NJIT Smart Gun Project - Main Page
Smart Gun Project
Overview:
The Smart Gun is a safety mechanism for firearms based on the idea of Dynamic Grip Recognition. The Dynamic Grip Recognition will allow only authorized users to shoot the firearm.
What’s new?
The webpage is newly design and officially updated
What’s currently be worked on:
More accurate grips
Smaller electronic parts
Increasing Dynamic Grip Recognition
How the Smart Gun works?
Click on "Smart Gun FAQs" to learn more.
Overview:
The Smart Gun is a safety mechanism for firearms based on the idea of Dynamic Grip Recognition. The Dynamic Grip Recognition will allow only authorized users to shoot the firearm.
What’s new?
The webpage is newly design and officially updated
What’s currently be worked on:
More accurate grips
Smaller electronic parts
Increasing Dynamic Grip Recognition
How the Smart Gun works?
Click on "Smart Gun FAQs" to learn more.
NJIT Smart Gun Project Flow
VOLUME I
APPENDIX B
PROJECT FLOW
DATE
ACTIVITY
August 1999
The Project was funded July 1, 1999, and the project manager, William Marshall, was contracted Aug. 5, 1999. The Governors Office received an initial briefing on Aug. 8, 1999, concerning NJIT’s focus on handgun safety, with special consideration given to firearms in the home and in the hands of young children.
September 1999
Information searches were conducted to determine the extent of prior technical research achieved in this field, and specifically, the identification of technology that could assist in the protection of children from firearms without impairing of handguns in defense of life or personal property
October 1999
The Team met with representatives from Colt on Oct. 21, 1999, at the NJIT campus in Newark. Beth Lavach, vice president for marketing, and Andrew Brignoli, vice president of engineering, discussed the potential for a working relationship with our team to collaborate on a technology search. Colt had participated in the Sandia Study, giving the company a head start in developing prototypes. Mr. Brignoli explained some of the problems posed by “smart” technology, such as severe power consumption and the need for a robust systems board. Since Colt was working closely with a law enforcement council it had formed to conduct testing, cooperating with Colt appeared promising at first. But a formal collaboration was soon doomed because of liability issues common to the firearms industry. At this time, Colt has reorganized and neither Ms. Lavach nor Mr. Brignoli are employed by the company.
Kenneth Pugh, President and chief executive officer of Fulton Arms in Houston, Tex., also contacted us to express his concern over our use of the term “SmartGun”. Claiming he had coined this phrase, Mr. Pugh said he had gained exclusive rights to its use. He furthered advised us that he had developed a handgun that employed technology that prevented unauthorized users from firing it. We invited Mr. Pugh to be our guest at NJIT from Nov. 17 through 19, 1999. Mr. Pugh arrived with two firearms using magnetic rings for authorization. We engaged him as a project consultant to the project, an arrangement that allowed us to work closely with an expert whose 10 years in the field would provide valuable insights into the industry and the marketplace
November 1999
Because there was no clear repository for information on research and development technology for handguns, our team began contacting and visiting with firearms manufacturers whenever and wherever possible. In particular, we contacted several companies -- Smith & Wesson, Colt and Mossberg -- all of which are located within driving distance. At Smith & Wesson’s corporate office in Springfield, Mass., on Nov. 12, 1999, the NJIT project manager briefed the president, Ed Schultz, and the vice president, Kevin Foley, at the corporate office in Springfield, and broached the potential for collaboration. Mr. Foley displayed several weapon platforms that had been developed over the last several years. Noting that S&W had worked on several different approaches in that time, Mr. Schultz said the company had spent more than a million dollars for research and development performed by independent contractors, most of which possessed electronics expertise unavailable at S&W. Seeing that S&W might offer a valuable forum for open dialogue, the project director offered NJIT’s services for future developments. Noting that S&W was embroiled in multiple lawsuits, Mr. Schultz and the project manager agreed informally to consider the potential for a non-disclosure agreement between the company and NJIT. The project manager met informally with Mr. Schultz in Nevada in January 2000, but so far, S&W has not yet formally proposed such an agreement or memorandum of understanding.
December 1999
Progress meetings were held establishing what additional assets would be required to facilitate the end goals of the project.
January 2000
A visit to Ken Pugh of Fulton Arms, Inc., was conducted at his office in Houston, Texas. The Shot Show in Las Vegas was also attended. A major event, the Honors Colloquium, was executed at NJIT for the Albert Dorman students featuring a panel discussion on weapons safety and smart gun technology.
February 2000
A technology demonstration hosted by FN Herstal Arms Manufacture at Sea Girt was attended. The arms company demonstrated a semi-automatic pistol that used “smart” technology to disable the firearm when not in authorized hands. It was one of the first such demonstrations that was executed without apology or excuse. Although this work represented only a technology demonstration – not a prototype – the test was very valuable to the project.
March 2000
Continuance of the project and meetings facilitating the ongoing progress.
April
2000
A briefing was prepared for the Governor’s Office on the progress of the project, but the meeting was postponed.
May
2000
A Smart Gun seminar conducted at NJIT focused on applied technology and was attended by practitioners, academics, and manufacturers. An event that drew extraordinary media attention, it featured two major political figures that participated as luncheon speakers. We also briefed the Governor’s staff on the current status of the project, and we visited the Marine Warfighting Lab in Quantico, Va. We also met representatives of FN Herstal Group, a large gun manufacturer based in Brussels, Belgium, who showed great interest in some of NJIT personalized weapons research.
June
2000
A meeting was held with the Joint Service Small Arms Program (JSSAP) from Picatinny Arsenal in Rockaway Township. This contact, which represented our first genuine exposure to the JSSAP staff, benefited all involved and provided our project staff with an extremely valuable resource. Two scheduled briefings for legislative staffers were postponed until July.
July
2000
On the 6th of July, we attended a follow-up meeting with FN Herstal, one of the world’s largest gun manufacturers. The meeting, which followed several demonstrations and FN’s participation in our May seminar, was part of an effort to achieve an important project goal -- establishing a liaison with a firearms manufacturer. This goal was achieved only on a tiny scale with Fulton Arms. The FN meeting was believed to be the start of a co- development effort with a major manufacturer. On July 11th, the project team participated in the first interactive Legislative briefing arranged by the Office of Legislative Services (David Sallach). This meeting was highly educational for those who attended. Participants received a complete, fur-hour explanation, tour and a demonstration of various technologies. Also present for the session was Debra Wachfpreff, a representative of the Million Moms March, state Sens. Bucco and Furnari, and representatives of the State Assembly.
On July 19th, the project entered into an agreement with BES Corporation. Both parties agreed to work on testing fingerprint scanners and software in a technology demonstration on static biometric measurements.
August 2000
Dr. Donald Sebastian and Bill Marshall appeared with state Sen. Anthony Bucco, R-Morris, on a Public Service Broadcast to discuss the Personalized Weapons Project. The pair also participated with Dr. Dentcho Ivanov and Joseph Giampapa, Esq., in a field trip to FN Herstal in Brussels to meet with engineers and corporate representatives to discuss the potential for a co-development relationship in future phases of the project. We spent considerable time with Thierry Jacobs, overall program manager; George Michaels, vice president for research and development; Pierre Renieer, vice president for marketing, and Phillip Townsen, president and chief executive officer.
Overall, the trip was very collegial and helpful and will likely assist us in establishing and maintaining our credibility with all segments of the firearm marketplace. It included a guided tour of FN manufacturing facilities, which are being converted for automation and robotics systems. Much of the machinery and HVAC equipped appeared to be updated and state of the art. We also witnessed a demonstration of several FN products targeted for U.S. distribution. One technology platform was a shotgun equipped with a “smart trigger” designed by the company and fabricated at the University of Liege. This demonstration was especially satisfying because some of our working theories had been incorporated into this firearm. FN representatives said their engineers had been developing a “personalized version” of a firearm for more than five years.
We also spent time at the University of Liege with Prof. Jacques Destine and Magaly Duquesne, members of the university staff who interface with FN. The University of Liege acts in collaboration with ARAMIS, an electronics consortium venture that works within the European Union representing 12 nations. University laboratories we visited included high-tech facilities designed for some of the same kinds of R&D being undertaken at NJIT.
Part of the day also was spent at the training and demonstration center in Zodendahl Forest where we handled some FN products and a received an in-depth briefing on a demonstration platform using ultrasonic technology. This product is targeting the law enforcement market for use in overcoming service revolver “take-aways”.
September 2000
A meeting was conducted with BES Corporation to discuss an experiment using students and law enforcement personnel in gathering data for analysis in fingerprint, handgrip, and palm measurement. This information would be helpful in developing pattern analysis and grip pressure analysis. On Sept. 28th, the team flew to FNMI in Columbus, S.C., to visit the plant and meet with staffers to discuss future collaboration.
October 2000
Dr. Recce and BES executed data collection at NJIT for biometric solutions with more than 200 participants. This effort established one of the largest databases in the country. In addition, the collection offers us the ability to use three different types of scanners from three different vendors to assist in making final conclusions and recommendations about technological feasibility, type of device, measurement, and reliability. Another meeting was held with FN Herstal on public policy matters relating to personalized weapons legislation and limited-liability issues as they relate to the aviation industry and auto-industry safety devices. On October 26th, the NJIT team participated in a JSSAP-hosted event at Picatinny Arsenal. JSSAP evaluated the reliability of commercial, off-the-shelf mechanical devices. These results are documented in a report found in this document’s appendices.
November 2000
On Nov. 14th at the Newark campus, NJIT updated members of the JSSAP staff on the current status of the project and our perception of the next step in our relationship. Dr. Sebastian taped a PBS television show, “Garden State Matters,” which aired Dec. 3rd at 8:30 a.m. on the WWOR-TV. On Nov. 8th, we briefed members of the Trenton staff of Senate President Donald T. DiFrancesco, R-Union, on the current status of the project and our next steps.
December 2000
The month was devoted to preparation of the final report and compiling information and budgets for follow-up steps.
APPENDIX B
PROJECT FLOW
DATE
ACTIVITY
August 1999
The Project was funded July 1, 1999, and the project manager, William Marshall, was contracted Aug. 5, 1999. The Governors Office received an initial briefing on Aug. 8, 1999, concerning NJIT’s focus on handgun safety, with special consideration given to firearms in the home and in the hands of young children.
September 1999
Information searches were conducted to determine the extent of prior technical research achieved in this field, and specifically, the identification of technology that could assist in the protection of children from firearms without impairing of handguns in defense of life or personal property
October 1999
The Team met with representatives from Colt on Oct. 21, 1999, at the NJIT campus in Newark. Beth Lavach, vice president for marketing, and Andrew Brignoli, vice president of engineering, discussed the potential for a working relationship with our team to collaborate on a technology search. Colt had participated in the Sandia Study, giving the company a head start in developing prototypes. Mr. Brignoli explained some of the problems posed by “smart” technology, such as severe power consumption and the need for a robust systems board. Since Colt was working closely with a law enforcement council it had formed to conduct testing, cooperating with Colt appeared promising at first. But a formal collaboration was soon doomed because of liability issues common to the firearms industry. At this time, Colt has reorganized and neither Ms. Lavach nor Mr. Brignoli are employed by the company.
Kenneth Pugh, President and chief executive officer of Fulton Arms in Houston, Tex., also contacted us to express his concern over our use of the term “SmartGun”. Claiming he had coined this phrase, Mr. Pugh said he had gained exclusive rights to its use. He furthered advised us that he had developed a handgun that employed technology that prevented unauthorized users from firing it. We invited Mr. Pugh to be our guest at NJIT from Nov. 17 through 19, 1999. Mr. Pugh arrived with two firearms using magnetic rings for authorization. We engaged him as a project consultant to the project, an arrangement that allowed us to work closely with an expert whose 10 years in the field would provide valuable insights into the industry and the marketplace
November 1999
Because there was no clear repository for information on research and development technology for handguns, our team began contacting and visiting with firearms manufacturers whenever and wherever possible. In particular, we contacted several companies -- Smith & Wesson, Colt and Mossberg -- all of which are located within driving distance. At Smith & Wesson’s corporate office in Springfield, Mass., on Nov. 12, 1999, the NJIT project manager briefed the president, Ed Schultz, and the vice president, Kevin Foley, at the corporate office in Springfield, and broached the potential for collaboration. Mr. Foley displayed several weapon platforms that had been developed over the last several years. Noting that S&W had worked on several different approaches in that time, Mr. Schultz said the company had spent more than a million dollars for research and development performed by independent contractors, most of which possessed electronics expertise unavailable at S&W. Seeing that S&W might offer a valuable forum for open dialogue, the project director offered NJIT’s services for future developments. Noting that S&W was embroiled in multiple lawsuits, Mr. Schultz and the project manager agreed informally to consider the potential for a non-disclosure agreement between the company and NJIT. The project manager met informally with Mr. Schultz in Nevada in January 2000, but so far, S&W has not yet formally proposed such an agreement or memorandum of understanding.
December 1999
Progress meetings were held establishing what additional assets would be required to facilitate the end goals of the project.
January 2000
A visit to Ken Pugh of Fulton Arms, Inc., was conducted at his office in Houston, Texas. The Shot Show in Las Vegas was also attended. A major event, the Honors Colloquium, was executed at NJIT for the Albert Dorman students featuring a panel discussion on weapons safety and smart gun technology.
February 2000
A technology demonstration hosted by FN Herstal Arms Manufacture at Sea Girt was attended. The arms company demonstrated a semi-automatic pistol that used “smart” technology to disable the firearm when not in authorized hands. It was one of the first such demonstrations that was executed without apology or excuse. Although this work represented only a technology demonstration – not a prototype – the test was very valuable to the project.
March 2000
Continuance of the project and meetings facilitating the ongoing progress.
April
2000
A briefing was prepared for the Governor’s Office on the progress of the project, but the meeting was postponed.
May
2000
A Smart Gun seminar conducted at NJIT focused on applied technology and was attended by practitioners, academics, and manufacturers. An event that drew extraordinary media attention, it featured two major political figures that participated as luncheon speakers. We also briefed the Governor’s staff on the current status of the project, and we visited the Marine Warfighting Lab in Quantico, Va. We also met representatives of FN Herstal Group, a large gun manufacturer based in Brussels, Belgium, who showed great interest in some of NJIT personalized weapons research.
June
2000
A meeting was held with the Joint Service Small Arms Program (JSSAP) from Picatinny Arsenal in Rockaway Township. This contact, which represented our first genuine exposure to the JSSAP staff, benefited all involved and provided our project staff with an extremely valuable resource. Two scheduled briefings for legislative staffers were postponed until July.
July
2000
On the 6th of July, we attended a follow-up meeting with FN Herstal, one of the world’s largest gun manufacturers. The meeting, which followed several demonstrations and FN’s participation in our May seminar, was part of an effort to achieve an important project goal -- establishing a liaison with a firearms manufacturer. This goal was achieved only on a tiny scale with Fulton Arms. The FN meeting was believed to be the start of a co- development effort with a major manufacturer. On July 11th, the project team participated in the first interactive Legislative briefing arranged by the Office of Legislative Services (David Sallach). This meeting was highly educational for those who attended. Participants received a complete, fur-hour explanation, tour and a demonstration of various technologies. Also present for the session was Debra Wachfpreff, a representative of the Million Moms March, state Sens. Bucco and Furnari, and representatives of the State Assembly.
On July 19th, the project entered into an agreement with BES Corporation. Both parties agreed to work on testing fingerprint scanners and software in a technology demonstration on static biometric measurements.
August 2000
Dr. Donald Sebastian and Bill Marshall appeared with state Sen. Anthony Bucco, R-Morris, on a Public Service Broadcast to discuss the Personalized Weapons Project. The pair also participated with Dr. Dentcho Ivanov and Joseph Giampapa, Esq., in a field trip to FN Herstal in Brussels to meet with engineers and corporate representatives to discuss the potential for a co-development relationship in future phases of the project. We spent considerable time with Thierry Jacobs, overall program manager; George Michaels, vice president for research and development; Pierre Renieer, vice president for marketing, and Phillip Townsen, president and chief executive officer.
Overall, the trip was very collegial and helpful and will likely assist us in establishing and maintaining our credibility with all segments of the firearm marketplace. It included a guided tour of FN manufacturing facilities, which are being converted for automation and robotics systems. Much of the machinery and HVAC equipped appeared to be updated and state of the art. We also witnessed a demonstration of several FN products targeted for U.S. distribution. One technology platform was a shotgun equipped with a “smart trigger” designed by the company and fabricated at the University of Liege. This demonstration was especially satisfying because some of our working theories had been incorporated into this firearm. FN representatives said their engineers had been developing a “personalized version” of a firearm for more than five years.
We also spent time at the University of Liege with Prof. Jacques Destine and Magaly Duquesne, members of the university staff who interface with FN. The University of Liege acts in collaboration with ARAMIS, an electronics consortium venture that works within the European Union representing 12 nations. University laboratories we visited included high-tech facilities designed for some of the same kinds of R&D being undertaken at NJIT.
Part of the day also was spent at the training and demonstration center in Zodendahl Forest where we handled some FN products and a received an in-depth briefing on a demonstration platform using ultrasonic technology. This product is targeting the law enforcement market for use in overcoming service revolver “take-aways”.
September 2000
A meeting was conducted with BES Corporation to discuss an experiment using students and law enforcement personnel in gathering data for analysis in fingerprint, handgrip, and palm measurement. This information would be helpful in developing pattern analysis and grip pressure analysis. On Sept. 28th, the team flew to FNMI in Columbus, S.C., to visit the plant and meet with staffers to discuss future collaboration.
October 2000
Dr. Recce and BES executed data collection at NJIT for biometric solutions with more than 200 participants. This effort established one of the largest databases in the country. In addition, the collection offers us the ability to use three different types of scanners from three different vendors to assist in making final conclusions and recommendations about technological feasibility, type of device, measurement, and reliability. Another meeting was held with FN Herstal on public policy matters relating to personalized weapons legislation and limited-liability issues as they relate to the aviation industry and auto-industry safety devices. On October 26th, the NJIT team participated in a JSSAP-hosted event at Picatinny Arsenal. JSSAP evaluated the reliability of commercial, off-the-shelf mechanical devices. These results are documented in a report found in this document’s appendices.
November 2000
On Nov. 14th at the Newark campus, NJIT updated members of the JSSAP staff on the current status of the project and our perception of the next step in our relationship. Dr. Sebastian taped a PBS television show, “Garden State Matters,” which aired Dec. 3rd at 8:30 a.m. on the WWOR-TV. On Nov. 8th, we briefed members of the Trenton staff of Senate President Donald T. DiFrancesco, R-Union, on the current status of the project and our next steps.
December 2000
The month was devoted to preparation of the final report and compiling information and budgets for follow-up steps.
Herstal Smart Guns
Circa 2002
Belgian Arms Producer Develops 'Smart Gun'
Tue Jun 4, 2:07 PM ET
By Bart Crols
BRUSSELS, Belgium (Reuters) - A Belgian company has made a prototype of a "smart gun" that can only be used by its owner, developed under contract with the U.S. government to make it harder for criminals to use stolen weapons.
"The idea is to make a gun fire when the owner wants it to and not to when the owner doesn't want to," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for FN Herstal, which has received about $20 million from the U.S. Department of Justice (news - web sites).
Gun control is a hot issue in the United States, where about 30,000 people die every year from gun-related injuries.
A 1994 FBI (news - web sites) study showed one in six police officers who died in the line of duty were killed with their own gun after being disarmed by a suspect.
Sauvage said the system now being tested uses an electronic recognition device attached to the owner, which the gun would be able to recognize. He said production could start in three years.
The "smart gun" technology could have wider uses than in policing, such as gun control at shooting galleries or to reduce hunting accidents.
"A weapon could for example be programmed to shoot on a Saturday morning between 10 and 12 a.m. in the hands of Mr. X at the shooting gallery of Herstal in the east-west direction," Sauvage said.
FN Herstal is based in the southern Belgian town of Herstal, near Liege, and has branches in several countries, including FN Manufacturing Inc. in the United States.
The Belgian arms producer acknowledges that many commercial and legal problems still need to be addressed, including the extra cost of the new weapons system. The cost of such a weapon may be about 20 percent more than conventional guns.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._fnherstal_dc_2
Belgian Arms Producer Develops 'Smart Gun'
Tue Jun 4, 2:07 PM ET
By Bart Crols
BRUSSELS, Belgium (Reuters) - A Belgian company has made a prototype of a "smart gun" that can only be used by its owner, developed under contract with the U.S. government to make it harder for criminals to use stolen weapons.
"The idea is to make a gun fire when the owner wants it to and not to when the owner doesn't want to," said Robert Sauvage, a spokesman for FN Herstal, which has received about $20 million from the U.S. Department of Justice (news - web sites).
Gun control is a hot issue in the United States, where about 30,000 people die every year from gun-related injuries.
A 1994 FBI (news - web sites) study showed one in six police officers who died in the line of duty were killed with their own gun after being disarmed by a suspect.
Sauvage said the system now being tested uses an electronic recognition device attached to the owner, which the gun would be able to recognize. He said production could start in three years.
The "smart gun" technology could have wider uses than in policing, such as gun control at shooting galleries or to reduce hunting accidents.
"A weapon could for example be programmed to shoot on a Saturday morning between 10 and 12 a.m. in the hands of Mr. X at the shooting gallery of Herstal in the east-west direction," Sauvage said.
FN Herstal is based in the southern Belgian town of Herstal, near Liege, and has branches in several countries, including FN Manufacturing Inc. in the United States.
The Belgian arms producer acknowledges that many commercial and legal problems still need to be addressed, including the extra cost of the new weapons system. The cost of such a weapon may be about 20 percent more than conventional guns.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._fnherstal_dc_2
Herstal Group backgrounder
Groupe Herstal S.A.
Address:
Voie de Liège 33
B-4040 Herstal
Belgium
Telephone: (32) 4 240 81 11
Fax: (32) 4 240 88 99
http://www.herstalgroup.com
Statistics:
Private Company
Incorporated: 1889
Employees: 3,000
Sales: $584.8 million (2001)
NAIC: 332992 Small Arms Ammunition Manufacturing; 332993 Ammunition (Except Small Arms) Manufac- turing; 332994 Small Arms Manufacturing; 332995 Other Ordnance and Accessories Manufacturing; 339920 Sporting and Athletic Good Manufacturing
Company Perspectives:
Herstal is committed to be a reliable source for small arms for the military and Law Enforcement markets. We are committed to maintaining operational excellence through continuous improvement and the pursuit of world class manufacturing.
Key Dates:
1886: An association of Liège-based arms manufacturers, Les Fabricants d'Armes Réunis (FAR), is founded.
1888: FAR sets up Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre in order to produce 150,000 Mauser rifles for the Belgian military; following completion of that order, Mauser takes over the company.
1918: FAR is taken over by Société Générale de Belgique after World War I.
1899: Production of John Moses Browning-designed automatic pistol begins.
1936: Production of anti-aircraft cannons begins.
1977: Browning company is acquired.
1987: US Repeating Arms Co. and the Winchester brand are acquired.
1990: Société Générale sells company to GIAT for $100 million.
1997: The Walloon government buys the company from GIAT and renames it Groupe Herstal.
2002: Herstal develops a "smart gun" prototype.
Company History:
Groupe Herstal S.A. is one of the world's leading makers of small-caliber firearms, ammunition, and accessories for the military, law enforcement, marksmanship, hunting, and sports markets. Based in the village of Herstal, Belgium, near Liège, the company operates through two primary subsidiaries: Fabrique Nationale Herstal--which produces side arms, rifles, mounted weapon systems, training systems, and military engineering for the defense and law-enforcement sectors--and Browning/US Repeating Arms Co., which produces sporting rifles and hand guns under the famous Browning and Winchester names. The company operates manufacturing facilities in Belgium and elsewhere in Europe, as well as in the United States and Japan. Herstal has been owned by the regional Walloon government since the mid-1990s; however, the government has been seeking to sell off the company, most likely to a group of private investors. In 2001, the latest year for which figures are available, Herstal posted revenues of nearly $585 million.
Forging Firearms History in the 1880s
Weapons manufacturing in the Belgian city of Liège began as early as the 16th century. By the second half of the nineteenth century, the city featured a number of prominent arms manufacturers. In 1886, a group of manufacturers, including Ancion, Dumoulin Frères, Dresse-Laloux & Cie., J. Hanssen, and Pirlot-Frésart joined together to form an association, Les Fabricants d'Armes Réunis (United Arms Manufacturers).
An order from the Belgian Army in 1887 for 150,000 repeating rifles encouraged Les Fabricants d'Armes Réunis to begin planning a new, large scale factory, and in 1888 the group created a new company, Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre. The new factory was built in Herstal, and in 1889 the company launched production of the Belgian army order, producing Mauser-designed rifles under license. Mauser, based in Germany, then bought up the company from its founders.
At the completion of that contract, the Belgian army returned to the company, later to become known as FN Herstal, with an order for 30 million rounds for the Mauser rifles. FN Herstal promptly set up a dedicated munitions factory next to its rifle production site in 1891.
FN Herstal soon expanded its production to include civilian arms, especially hunting rifles. By the mid-1890s, the company began seeking other production areas, and in 1896 the company launched production of its own line of bicycles, including its own "acatene," or chainless, shaft-driven bicycle designs. The company would remain a popular producer of bicycles for some 30 years.
From bicycles, FN Herstal entered the young automotive market, producing its first car in 1900 and its first motorcycle two years later. While the company stopped producing cars in 1937, it continued to build motorcycles into the 1960s. In addition, FN Herstal became a prominent truck manufacturer, with production running from 1930 to 1966, and also built trolleys between 1932 and 1955. Closer to its core weapons production was the manufacturing of military vehicles, and activity in this area continued until the early 1980s. Its diversified product line notwithstanding, FN Herstal achieved its greatest renown as a maker of small arms.
It was during the late 1890s that the company came into contact with one of the most important personalities in gun manufacturing history: John Moses Browning. Browning, the son of a gunsmith, built his first rifle when just a boy. By the age of 23, he had already received his first patent, for a single-shot rifle. Browning and brother Matt decided to set up their own workshop to produce the rifle in 1880. Browning's invention quickly caught the attention of Winchester, another famous name in U.S. rifles, which bought out the patent.
Browning proved to be a prolific inventor, introducing in 1884 a lever-action repeating rifle, which became famous as the Winchester Model 86. The New York-based company remained a steady customer for Browning, buying up some 20 of his patents before the end of that decade. In the meantime, Browning had begun work on a new, groundbreaking design--the automatic machine gun, patented in 1890.
By then, the relationship with Winchester had begun to sour, and Browning had begun to seek other manufacturers for future patents. In 1894, Browning turned his attention to adapting his automatic firing system to handguns. By 1896, Browning had perfected the mechanism for the world's first automatic pistol.
The following year brought Browning into contact with FN Herstal, when a representative of the Belgian company, traveling in the United States in search of new bicycle designs, came across the Browning automatic. FN Herstal agreed to begin producing the design and by 1899 had launched the world's first commercially available automatic handgun. The new side arm became a huge success for the Belgian company.
Browning now turned his attention to developing an automatic repeating function for shotguns. By 1900, Browning had perfected the new design, a five-shot fully automatic shotgun. However, U.S. manufacturers were unwilling to produce the new weapon, believing it to be too far ahead of its time. In 1902, Browning traveled to Belgium, where he found ready acceptance for the shotgun from FN Herstal.
Browning and FN Herstal now began to work closely together, with FN Herstal producing an initial order of 10,000 shotguns. These were sold by Browning within a year, leading Remington to pick up on the design as well. Nevertheless, Browning's closest ties where with FN Herstal, and by 1907 Browning had agreed to allow the Belgian company to manufacture arms using his name. Among the arms produced by the FN Herstal-Browning team in this period were a 9mm military semi-automatic pistol in 1903; a pocket-sized .25 caliber semi-automatic in 1905, and a semi-automatic .22 caliber rifle in 1914. In that year, Browning received the Order of the Knighthood from the Belgian throne in recognition of his contribution to the Belgian company's growing worldwide reputation. The company received more dubious distinction as the maker of the automatic handgun used in the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, setting off World War I.
FN Herstal shut down its operations during the German wartime occupation of Belgium; some of the company's staff fled to France, setting up a new company, Manufacture d'Armes de Paris. Following the war, FN Herstal resumed operations. The company was now stripped from Mauser and taken over by Sociéteé Générale de Belgique.
Browning had continued developing weapons during the war years, including .30 caliber and .50 machine guns and the famed Browning Automatic Rifle, or BAR, the world's first light machine gun. Browning brought these new designs to FN Herstal following the war, and by 1920 Herstal had begun production of the BAR. While Browning himself returned to the United States, his son Val Browning remained at FN Herstal, further strengthening the family's close association with the manufacturer. Browning continued to make frequent visits to FN Herstal, where he had his own office, and ultimately died in Liège in 1926.
The following year, the Browning family founded its own manufacturing works, the Browning Arms Company, in Odgen, Utah. That company, which focused on producing hunting and sports rifles and shotguns, later parlayed the famed Browning name into a variety of sporting goods items.
Diversification Disaster in the 1980s
Following the war, FN Herstal's business had been boosted by the adoption of its 9mm pistol design as standard issue by police forces across Europe--and later around the world. FN Herstal had also continued to diversify its manufacturing basis, as already noted. In 1928, the company began construction of a new factory for its automobile production. Two years later, FN Herstal added a new production site, in Bruges, transferring its munitions production there.
By 1936, FN Herstal had begun to produce 40mm anti-aircraft cannons. Two years later, the company was once again taken over by German occupying forces, which used the arms manufacturer's production to support its own war effort. FN Herstal escaped bombing by the Allies; however, after the liberation of Belgium in 1944, the company's factories became the target of Nazi bombing raids.
Following the war, FN Herstal began a new expansion of its defense manufacturing operations. In 1948, the company launched production of jet airplane engines, using the Gloster Meteor design. Over the next decades, FN Herstal was involved in the production of a number of important aircraft designs, such as the Hunter, the F104-G, the MirageV, and the Boeing Airbus. At the same time, as it wound down its automotive and motorcycle operations, FN Herstal turned instead to producing agricultural machinery.
The 1970s marked a new period of growth for the company, as the intensification of the Cold War and tensions in the Middle East brought about a sharp increase in worldwide defense spending. Yet even as defense manufacture took on a major role in FN Herstal's revenues, the company sought to extend its civilian-based businesses.
In 1977, the company acquired long-time partner Browning. Browning's presence in the sporting goods market encouraged Herstal to step up its own operations in that sector. In 1979, Herstal acquired France's Lerc, a maker of fishing equipment, as well as that company's distributor. It also began producing such diverse sporting goods equipment as tennis rackets and surfboards. Meanwhile, the company had formed a manufacturing agreement with Japan's Miroku, which in turn took a 25 percent stake in Herstal. By 1980, the company employed more than 10,000 workers.
FN Herstal stumbled in the 1980s amid a slumping defense market. In addition, the company had invested heavily in building up its aircraft motors and sporting goods wings, which failed to take off and left Herstal overburdened by debt. By the middle of the 1980s, the company's interest payments accounted for some 10 percent of its sales.
Despite the fact that the company had succeeded in reducing its reliance on defense contracts, FN Herstal was forced to abandon its diversification strategy. The company began shedding most of its non-core operations, shutting down most of its sporting goods businesses, except for its hunting rifles and fishing equipment lines. In 1988, FN Herstal sold off its aircraft motors subsidiary--renamed as Techspace Aero. Nonetheless, FN Herstal had not completely given up on external growth. In 1987, it acquired US Repeating Arms Co. which had been formed in 1981 to take over the manufacture of Winchester guns.
Meanwhile, Société Générale's attempts to restructure the company proved fruitless, and, after pumping a further $400 million into the company in mid-1990, finally sold FN Herstal to French defense giant GIAT for about $100 million. The government-controlled company acquired 92 percent of FN Herstal, soon to be renamed Herstal SA, while the Belgian government retained 8 percent and an important veto right.
New Owners in a New Century?
Under GIAT, Herstal restructured again, reducing its focus back to a core production, on the one hand, of light arms and munitions for the military and sporting guns and sporting goods under the Browning name, and, on the other, of anti-aircraft cannons and armament systems for helicopters and other aircraft. The restructuring of the company cut deeply into its workforce, which shrunk back to just 1,300 employees by 1992.
GIAT itself began bleeding badly in the 1990s as the worldwide defense market collapsed with the end of the Cold War. As its own fortunes dwindled, GIAT finally was unable to continue to invest in keeping Herstal afloat, and by 1996 had announced its willingness to sell the Belgian company.
GIAT appeared to have found a buyer in Colt Manufacturing, the U.S.-based company and Herstal's chief rival in the worldwide small arms market. Colt and GIAT began negotiations in 1997 and were close to reaching an agreement when the Walloon regional government vetoed a potential deal. Fearful that Colt sought to buy Herstal only to shut it down, and thereby increase its own share of the market, the Walloon government itself decided to buy Herstal.
The company now became Groupe Herstal S.A., with FN Herstal and Browning/US Repeating placed as its primary subsidiaries. Groupe Herstal's restructuring continued, including the loss of more than 500 new jobs. This time, however, the company's efforts paid off, and by 1999 Groupe Herstal was once again posting profits.
The Walloon government announced its intention to sell off Groupe Herstal again in 2000. In the meantime, Herstal fortunes began to rise again in the new century as it released a number of new products, including a polymer frame handgun in the United States, and, under a contract with the U.S. government, a prototype "smart gun" designed to be fired only by its owner. Herstal's military sales received another boost in 2003 when the British government choose to supply its armed forces with the company's newest Minimi series of light machine guns. As the Walloon government continued to search for new owners for the company, the Groupe Herstal was poised to continue making small arms history into the next century.
Principal Subsidiaries: Browning International; Browning North America; Fabrique Nationale Herstal S.A; FNH USA, Inc.; FN Manufacturing USA; US Repeating Arms Co.; Herstal Group.
Principal Competitors: Pentair Inc.; MKEK-Makine ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu Genel Mudurlugu; Rheinmetall DeTec AG; Tula Ammunition Plant Joint Stock Company; Olin Corporation; SNPE; Poongsan Corporation; CIC International Ltd.; RUAG Holding; Denel Proprietory Ltd.; Blount International Inc.; Israel Military Industries Ltd.
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Further Reading:
"Britain To Buy FN Herstal Light Machine Guns For $12.3 Million," Defense Daily International, May 30, 2003.
Chamberlain, W.H.J., and A.W.F. Taylerson, "An FN Centenary: the First 50 Years," American Rifleman, December 1989, p. 36.
------, "An FN Centenary: the Second 50 Years," American Rifleman, February 1990, p. 34.
"France's GIAT to sell FN Herstal to Local Belgian Government," Defense Daily, October 24, 1997, p. 2.
"Smart Gun Developed in Belgium," Xinhua News Agency, June 4, 2002.
Thurman, Ross, "FN Herstal Refocuses US Efforts," Shooting Industry, August 2002, p. 38.
Tran, Pierre, "Belgium Guns Down Colt's Bid for Herstal," Reuters, October 8, 1997.
Source: International Directory of Company Histories, Vol. 58. St. James Press, 2004.
Address:
Voie de Liège 33
B-4040 Herstal
Belgium
Telephone: (32) 4 240 81 11
Fax: (32) 4 240 88 99
http://www.herstalgroup.com
Statistics:
Private Company
Incorporated: 1889
Employees: 3,000
Sales: $584.8 million (2001)
NAIC: 332992 Small Arms Ammunition Manufacturing; 332993 Ammunition (Except Small Arms) Manufac- turing; 332994 Small Arms Manufacturing; 332995 Other Ordnance and Accessories Manufacturing; 339920 Sporting and Athletic Good Manufacturing
Company Perspectives:
Herstal is committed to be a reliable source for small arms for the military and Law Enforcement markets. We are committed to maintaining operational excellence through continuous improvement and the pursuit of world class manufacturing.
Key Dates:
1886: An association of Liège-based arms manufacturers, Les Fabricants d'Armes Réunis (FAR), is founded.
1888: FAR sets up Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre in order to produce 150,000 Mauser rifles for the Belgian military; following completion of that order, Mauser takes over the company.
1918: FAR is taken over by Société Générale de Belgique after World War I.
1899: Production of John Moses Browning-designed automatic pistol begins.
1936: Production of anti-aircraft cannons begins.
1977: Browning company is acquired.
1987: US Repeating Arms Co. and the Winchester brand are acquired.
1990: Société Générale sells company to GIAT for $100 million.
1997: The Walloon government buys the company from GIAT and renames it Groupe Herstal.
2002: Herstal develops a "smart gun" prototype.
Company History:
Groupe Herstal S.A. is one of the world's leading makers of small-caliber firearms, ammunition, and accessories for the military, law enforcement, marksmanship, hunting, and sports markets. Based in the village of Herstal, Belgium, near Liège, the company operates through two primary subsidiaries: Fabrique Nationale Herstal--which produces side arms, rifles, mounted weapon systems, training systems, and military engineering for the defense and law-enforcement sectors--and Browning/US Repeating Arms Co., which produces sporting rifles and hand guns under the famous Browning and Winchester names. The company operates manufacturing facilities in Belgium and elsewhere in Europe, as well as in the United States and Japan. Herstal has been owned by the regional Walloon government since the mid-1990s; however, the government has been seeking to sell off the company, most likely to a group of private investors. In 2001, the latest year for which figures are available, Herstal posted revenues of nearly $585 million.
Forging Firearms History in the 1880s
Weapons manufacturing in the Belgian city of Liège began as early as the 16th century. By the second half of the nineteenth century, the city featured a number of prominent arms manufacturers. In 1886, a group of manufacturers, including Ancion, Dumoulin Frères, Dresse-Laloux & Cie., J. Hanssen, and Pirlot-Frésart joined together to form an association, Les Fabricants d'Armes Réunis (United Arms Manufacturers).
An order from the Belgian Army in 1887 for 150,000 repeating rifles encouraged Les Fabricants d'Armes Réunis to begin planning a new, large scale factory, and in 1888 the group created a new company, Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre. The new factory was built in Herstal, and in 1889 the company launched production of the Belgian army order, producing Mauser-designed rifles under license. Mauser, based in Germany, then bought up the company from its founders.
At the completion of that contract, the Belgian army returned to the company, later to become known as FN Herstal, with an order for 30 million rounds for the Mauser rifles. FN Herstal promptly set up a dedicated munitions factory next to its rifle production site in 1891.
FN Herstal soon expanded its production to include civilian arms, especially hunting rifles. By the mid-1890s, the company began seeking other production areas, and in 1896 the company launched production of its own line of bicycles, including its own "acatene," or chainless, shaft-driven bicycle designs. The company would remain a popular producer of bicycles for some 30 years.
From bicycles, FN Herstal entered the young automotive market, producing its first car in 1900 and its first motorcycle two years later. While the company stopped producing cars in 1937, it continued to build motorcycles into the 1960s. In addition, FN Herstal became a prominent truck manufacturer, with production running from 1930 to 1966, and also built trolleys between 1932 and 1955. Closer to its core weapons production was the manufacturing of military vehicles, and activity in this area continued until the early 1980s. Its diversified product line notwithstanding, FN Herstal achieved its greatest renown as a maker of small arms.
It was during the late 1890s that the company came into contact with one of the most important personalities in gun manufacturing history: John Moses Browning. Browning, the son of a gunsmith, built his first rifle when just a boy. By the age of 23, he had already received his first patent, for a single-shot rifle. Browning and brother Matt decided to set up their own workshop to produce the rifle in 1880. Browning's invention quickly caught the attention of Winchester, another famous name in U.S. rifles, which bought out the patent.
Browning proved to be a prolific inventor, introducing in 1884 a lever-action repeating rifle, which became famous as the Winchester Model 86. The New York-based company remained a steady customer for Browning, buying up some 20 of his patents before the end of that decade. In the meantime, Browning had begun work on a new, groundbreaking design--the automatic machine gun, patented in 1890.
By then, the relationship with Winchester had begun to sour, and Browning had begun to seek other manufacturers for future patents. In 1894, Browning turned his attention to adapting his automatic firing system to handguns. By 1896, Browning had perfected the mechanism for the world's first automatic pistol.
The following year brought Browning into contact with FN Herstal, when a representative of the Belgian company, traveling in the United States in search of new bicycle designs, came across the Browning automatic. FN Herstal agreed to begin producing the design and by 1899 had launched the world's first commercially available automatic handgun. The new side arm became a huge success for the Belgian company.
Browning now turned his attention to developing an automatic repeating function for shotguns. By 1900, Browning had perfected the new design, a five-shot fully automatic shotgun. However, U.S. manufacturers were unwilling to produce the new weapon, believing it to be too far ahead of its time. In 1902, Browning traveled to Belgium, where he found ready acceptance for the shotgun from FN Herstal.
Browning and FN Herstal now began to work closely together, with FN Herstal producing an initial order of 10,000 shotguns. These were sold by Browning within a year, leading Remington to pick up on the design as well. Nevertheless, Browning's closest ties where with FN Herstal, and by 1907 Browning had agreed to allow the Belgian company to manufacture arms using his name. Among the arms produced by the FN Herstal-Browning team in this period were a 9mm military semi-automatic pistol in 1903; a pocket-sized .25 caliber semi-automatic in 1905, and a semi-automatic .22 caliber rifle in 1914. In that year, Browning received the Order of the Knighthood from the Belgian throne in recognition of his contribution to the Belgian company's growing worldwide reputation. The company received more dubious distinction as the maker of the automatic handgun used in the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, setting off World War I.
FN Herstal shut down its operations during the German wartime occupation of Belgium; some of the company's staff fled to France, setting up a new company, Manufacture d'Armes de Paris. Following the war, FN Herstal resumed operations. The company was now stripped from Mauser and taken over by Sociéteé Générale de Belgique.
Browning had continued developing weapons during the war years, including .30 caliber and .50 machine guns and the famed Browning Automatic Rifle, or BAR, the world's first light machine gun. Browning brought these new designs to FN Herstal following the war, and by 1920 Herstal had begun production of the BAR. While Browning himself returned to the United States, his son Val Browning remained at FN Herstal, further strengthening the family's close association with the manufacturer. Browning continued to make frequent visits to FN Herstal, where he had his own office, and ultimately died in Liège in 1926.
The following year, the Browning family founded its own manufacturing works, the Browning Arms Company, in Odgen, Utah. That company, which focused on producing hunting and sports rifles and shotguns, later parlayed the famed Browning name into a variety of sporting goods items.
Diversification Disaster in the 1980s
Following the war, FN Herstal's business had been boosted by the adoption of its 9mm pistol design as standard issue by police forces across Europe--and later around the world. FN Herstal had also continued to diversify its manufacturing basis, as already noted. In 1928, the company began construction of a new factory for its automobile production. Two years later, FN Herstal added a new production site, in Bruges, transferring its munitions production there.
By 1936, FN Herstal had begun to produce 40mm anti-aircraft cannons. Two years later, the company was once again taken over by German occupying forces, which used the arms manufacturer's production to support its own war effort. FN Herstal escaped bombing by the Allies; however, after the liberation of Belgium in 1944, the company's factories became the target of Nazi bombing raids.
Following the war, FN Herstal began a new expansion of its defense manufacturing operations. In 1948, the company launched production of jet airplane engines, using the Gloster Meteor design. Over the next decades, FN Herstal was involved in the production of a number of important aircraft designs, such as the Hunter, the F104-G, the MirageV, and the Boeing Airbus. At the same time, as it wound down its automotive and motorcycle operations, FN Herstal turned instead to producing agricultural machinery.
The 1970s marked a new period of growth for the company, as the intensification of the Cold War and tensions in the Middle East brought about a sharp increase in worldwide defense spending. Yet even as defense manufacture took on a major role in FN Herstal's revenues, the company sought to extend its civilian-based businesses.
In 1977, the company acquired long-time partner Browning. Browning's presence in the sporting goods market encouraged Herstal to step up its own operations in that sector. In 1979, Herstal acquired France's Lerc, a maker of fishing equipment, as well as that company's distributor. It also began producing such diverse sporting goods equipment as tennis rackets and surfboards. Meanwhile, the company had formed a manufacturing agreement with Japan's Miroku, which in turn took a 25 percent stake in Herstal. By 1980, the company employed more than 10,000 workers.
FN Herstal stumbled in the 1980s amid a slumping defense market. In addition, the company had invested heavily in building up its aircraft motors and sporting goods wings, which failed to take off and left Herstal overburdened by debt. By the middle of the 1980s, the company's interest payments accounted for some 10 percent of its sales.
Despite the fact that the company had succeeded in reducing its reliance on defense contracts, FN Herstal was forced to abandon its diversification strategy. The company began shedding most of its non-core operations, shutting down most of its sporting goods businesses, except for its hunting rifles and fishing equipment lines. In 1988, FN Herstal sold off its aircraft motors subsidiary--renamed as Techspace Aero. Nonetheless, FN Herstal had not completely given up on external growth. In 1987, it acquired US Repeating Arms Co. which had been formed in 1981 to take over the manufacture of Winchester guns.
Meanwhile, Société Générale's attempts to restructure the company proved fruitless, and, after pumping a further $400 million into the company in mid-1990, finally sold FN Herstal to French defense giant GIAT for about $100 million. The government-controlled company acquired 92 percent of FN Herstal, soon to be renamed Herstal SA, while the Belgian government retained 8 percent and an important veto right.
New Owners in a New Century?
Under GIAT, Herstal restructured again, reducing its focus back to a core production, on the one hand, of light arms and munitions for the military and sporting guns and sporting goods under the Browning name, and, on the other, of anti-aircraft cannons and armament systems for helicopters and other aircraft. The restructuring of the company cut deeply into its workforce, which shrunk back to just 1,300 employees by 1992.
GIAT itself began bleeding badly in the 1990s as the worldwide defense market collapsed with the end of the Cold War. As its own fortunes dwindled, GIAT finally was unable to continue to invest in keeping Herstal afloat, and by 1996 had announced its willingness to sell the Belgian company.
GIAT appeared to have found a buyer in Colt Manufacturing, the U.S.-based company and Herstal's chief rival in the worldwide small arms market. Colt and GIAT began negotiations in 1997 and were close to reaching an agreement when the Walloon regional government vetoed a potential deal. Fearful that Colt sought to buy Herstal only to shut it down, and thereby increase its own share of the market, the Walloon government itself decided to buy Herstal.
The company now became Groupe Herstal S.A., with FN Herstal and Browning/US Repeating placed as its primary subsidiaries. Groupe Herstal's restructuring continued, including the loss of more than 500 new jobs. This time, however, the company's efforts paid off, and by 1999 Groupe Herstal was once again posting profits.
The Walloon government announced its intention to sell off Groupe Herstal again in 2000. In the meantime, Herstal fortunes began to rise again in the new century as it released a number of new products, including a polymer frame handgun in the United States, and, under a contract with the U.S. government, a prototype "smart gun" designed to be fired only by its owner. Herstal's military sales received another boost in 2003 when the British government choose to supply its armed forces with the company's newest Minimi series of light machine guns. As the Walloon government continued to search for new owners for the company, the Groupe Herstal was poised to continue making small arms history into the next century.
Principal Subsidiaries: Browning International; Browning North America; Fabrique Nationale Herstal S.A; FNH USA, Inc.; FN Manufacturing USA; US Repeating Arms Co.; Herstal Group.
Principal Competitors: Pentair Inc.; MKEK-Makine ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu Genel Mudurlugu; Rheinmetall DeTec AG; Tula Ammunition Plant Joint Stock Company; Olin Corporation; SNPE; Poongsan Corporation; CIC International Ltd.; RUAG Holding; Denel Proprietory Ltd.; Blount International Inc.; Israel Military Industries Ltd.
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Further Reading:
"Britain To Buy FN Herstal Light Machine Guns For $12.3 Million," Defense Daily International, May 30, 2003.
Chamberlain, W.H.J., and A.W.F. Taylerson, "An FN Centenary: the First 50 Years," American Rifleman, December 1989, p. 36.
------, "An FN Centenary: the Second 50 Years," American Rifleman, February 1990, p. 34.
"France's GIAT to sell FN Herstal to Local Belgian Government," Defense Daily, October 24, 1997, p. 2.
"Smart Gun Developed in Belgium," Xinhua News Agency, June 4, 2002.
Thurman, Ross, "FN Herstal Refocuses US Efforts," Shooting Industry, August 2002, p. 38.
Tran, Pierre, "Belgium Guns Down Colt's Bid for Herstal," Reuters, October 8, 1997.
Source: International Directory of Company Histories, Vol. 58. St. James Press, 2004.
Otis Cleaning kit contents
Brand New Otis Cleaning Kit for the FN 5.7x28 pistols and rifles. Everything you need to properly clean your USG, IOM, or P90. Otis model# FG-223-57. 25 piece kit includes
1. Soft Pack Case
2. 8in cable
3. 12in cable
4. 20in cable
5. 2in 5.7mm Patches (10)
6. Bore Reflector
7. Compact Receiver Brush
8. Female Rod Handle (8/32 thread)
9. Male Rod Handle Adapter
10. Mohair Lense Cleaning Brush
11. 1/2oz O85 Ultrabore Solvent
12. P90 Tapered Chamber Brush
13. 5.7mm Bore Brush
14. 5.7mm Chamber Brush
15. T-handle
16. 5.7mm Slotted Tip
17. 5.7mm Obstruction Remover
18. Brass Scraper
19. NATO Adapter
20. Straight Pick
21. Angled Pick
22. End Brush (nylon w/ brass stem)
23. Instruction Sheet for 5.7mm
24. 3in Mini CD-ROM (Military Version)
25. New Fold-out Brochure
1. Soft Pack Case
2. 8in cable
3. 12in cable
4. 20in cable
5. 2in 5.7mm Patches (10)
6. Bore Reflector
7. Compact Receiver Brush
8. Female Rod Handle (8/32 thread)
9. Male Rod Handle Adapter
10. Mohair Lense Cleaning Brush
11. 1/2oz O85 Ultrabore Solvent
12. P90 Tapered Chamber Brush
13. 5.7mm Bore Brush
14. 5.7mm Chamber Brush
15. T-handle
16. 5.7mm Slotted Tip
17. 5.7mm Obstruction Remover
18. Brass Scraper
19. NATO Adapter
20. Straight Pick
21. Angled Pick
22. End Brush (nylon w/ brass stem)
23. Instruction Sheet for 5.7mm
24. 3in Mini CD-ROM (Military Version)
25. New Fold-out Brochure
Gunbroker early model IOM for sale
Description for Item # 59939363
This is the Tactical variant, which was previously restricted to law enforcemen and military. It was briefly made available to individual officers (under the name IOM) with capacity reduced to ten rounds by epoxying in a block of plastic in the bottom of the stack, and with serial numbers from the new IOM range (3861xxxxx). You can tell an "IOM" Tactical from a military/law enforcement only Tactical by... First, the serial number is in IOM format (3861xxxxx), not Tactical format (386Mxxxxx). Secondly, the serial is embedded in a metal strip above the accessory rail instead of silk-screened onto the frame above the grip. Finally, the newer Tactical/older IOM has adjustable rear sight whereas the LE/Military Tactical had small, fixed sights. Five-seveN Tactical pistols are becoming rare. These guns were allowed into the country and a few have actually made their way to the open market,such as this one. This weapon is used but, in like new condition, I was only going to fire one round through it to ensure the weapon worked properly but, I was so impressed with the weapon I fired an entire box of 50 rounds. As you can tell from the pictures there are no scratches, dents, dings or blemishes on the weapon. It has all of the original paper work, test casing and equipment. Please check your local laws before bidding! I will ship to a FFL Dealer ONLY!!! Please add $25.00 for shipping and handling. Possible trades considered, NO JUNK!!!
[Information added 11/01/2006 6:12:30 PM]
This weapon has three additional magazines, they are 20 round High Capacity Mags and two boxes of unopened RARE SS192 Ball Ammunition. The ammunition will be mailed seperately, due to Federal Law!
[Information added 11/01/2006 6:16:53 PM]
THESE EXTRAS(HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND AMMO)ARE ONLY AVAILABLE WITH THE BUY IT NOW PRICE!!!
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This is the Tactical variant, which was previously restricted to law enforcemen and military. It was briefly made available to individual officers (under the name IOM) with capacity reduced to ten rounds by epoxying in a block of plastic in the bottom of the stack, and with serial numbers from the new IOM range (3861xxxxx). You can tell an "IOM" Tactical from a military/law enforcement only Tactical by... First, the serial number is in IOM format (3861xxxxx), not Tactical format (386Mxxxxx). Secondly, the serial is embedded in a metal strip above the accessory rail instead of silk-screened onto the frame above the grip. Finally, the newer Tactical/older IOM has adjustable rear sight whereas the LE/Military Tactical had small, fixed sights. Five-seveN Tactical pistols are becoming rare. These guns were allowed into the country and a few have actually made their way to the open market,such as this one. This weapon is used but, in like new condition, I was only going to fire one round through it to ensure the weapon worked properly but, I was so impressed with the weapon I fired an entire box of 50 rounds. As you can tell from the pictures there are no scratches, dents, dings or blemishes on the weapon. It has all of the original paper work, test casing and equipment. Please check your local laws before bidding! I will ship to a FFL Dealer ONLY!!! Please add $25.00 for shipping and handling. Possible trades considered, NO JUNK!!!
[Information added 11/01/2006 6:12:30 PM]
This weapon has three additional magazines, they are 20 round High Capacity Mags and two boxes of unopened RARE SS192 Ball Ammunition. The ammunition will be mailed seperately, due to Federal Law!
[Information added 11/01/2006 6:16:53 PM]
THESE EXTRAS(HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND AMMO)ARE ONLY AVAILABLE WITH THE BUY IT NOW PRICE!!!
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UNDERCUT GUN SALES
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SGC USA - FNH PS90 - SGCUSA.com
SGC USA - FNH PS90 - SGCUSA.com: "FNH PS90
- Based on the FN P90 and built around the revolutionary FN 5.7x28mm ammunition, the PS90 is a compact, lightweight and completely ambidextrous firearm capable of fulfilling numerous security, personal defense, competition and sport shooting roles. The 10- or 30-round box magazine runs horizontally across the top of the PS90, while fired cases are ejected downward where they cannot interfere with the user. The extended civilian legal 16.04' barrel with integral muzzle brake and semi-automatic closed bolt operation give the PS90 outstanding accuracy, while the non-magnifying optical sight makes it easy to locate and stay on target.
Features & Specifications
OPERATION Blowback mechanism firing from closed breech
OVERALL LENGTH 26.23'
WIDTH 2.2'
HEIGHT WITH OPTICAL SIGHT 8.3'
WEIGHT WITH LOADED MAGAZINE 7.36 lbs
MAGAZINE CAPACITY 30 rds, 10 where required
FIRING MODE Semi-auto only"
- Based on the FN P90 and built around the revolutionary FN 5.7x28mm ammunition, the PS90 is a compact, lightweight and completely ambidextrous firearm capable of fulfilling numerous security, personal defense, competition and sport shooting roles. The 10- or 30-round box magazine runs horizontally across the top of the PS90, while fired cases are ejected downward where they cannot interfere with the user. The extended civilian legal 16.04' barrel with integral muzzle brake and semi-automatic closed bolt operation give the PS90 outstanding accuracy, while the non-magnifying optical sight makes it easy to locate and stay on target.
Features & Specifications
OPERATION Blowback mechanism firing from closed breech
OVERALL LENGTH 26.23'
WIDTH 2.2'
HEIGHT WITH OPTICAL SIGHT 8.3'
WEIGHT WITH LOADED MAGAZINE 7.36 lbs
MAGAZINE CAPACITY 30 rds, 10 where required
FIRING MODE Semi-auto only"
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