Friday, September 09, 2005
Thursday, September 08, 2005
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Document Title: "FN FIVE-SEVEN USG
De FN Five-Seven USG is een product van FN USA. Deze FN wordt geleverd in het kaliber 5,7x28mm en is voorzien van een Polymeer frame. Tevens is zij voorzien van een geintergreerde accessoire rail en omkeerbare magazijn uitwerpknop. De lengte bedraagt 208 mm met een looplengte van 122,4 mm. In tegestelling tot hetgeen verwacht zou worden betreft het een single action pistool en breekt men ( terecht) met de trend om uitsluitend double action wapens te produceren. Het feit dat het een ontwikkeling uit de Amerikaanse vestiging van FN betreft zou kunnen betekenen dat het model uitsluitend in Amerika zal worden verkocht, echter de kaliber aanduiding in mm en de magazijn capaciteit van 20 patronen spreekt dat mogelijk weer tegen. "
De FN Five-Seven USG is een product van FN USA. Deze FN wordt geleverd in het kaliber 5,7x28mm en is voorzien van een Polymeer frame. Tevens is zij voorzien van een geintergreerde accessoire rail en omkeerbare magazijn uitwerpknop. De lengte bedraagt 208 mm met een looplengte van 122,4 mm. In tegestelling tot hetgeen verwacht zou worden betreft het een single action pistool en breekt men ( terecht) met de trend om uitsluitend double action wapens te produceren. Het feit dat het een ontwikkeling uit de Amerikaanse vestiging van FN betreft zou kunnen betekenen dat het model uitsluitend in Amerika zal worden verkocht, echter de kaliber aanduiding in mm en de magazijn capaciteit van 20 patronen spreekt dat mogelijk weer tegen. "
Shooting Industry Magazine
Shooting Industry Magazine: "
FNH USA
FN Five-Seven USG
FNH USA�s Five-Seven USG semi-auto in 5.7x28mm features a polymer frame, integrated accessory rail, reversible magazine release and textured grip. With a 4.82-inch barrel, it measures 8.2 inches overall length and weighs 1.36 pounds. The single-action pistol comes with a 20-round magazine.
FNH USA Inc.
(703) 288-1292
www.fnhusa.com"
FNH USA
FN Five-Seven USG
FNH USA�s Five-Seven USG semi-auto in 5.7x28mm features a polymer frame, integrated accessory rail, reversible magazine release and textured grip. With a 4.82-inch barrel, it measures 8.2 inches overall length and weighs 1.36 pounds. The single-action pistol comes with a 20-round magazine.
FNH USA Inc.
(703) 288-1292
www.fnhusa.com"
page2i
page2i: "And now for something a whole lot different...
FN FiveSeven
The next pistol to be tested around here is the new FN FiveSeven 'USG' model. This pistol holds 20 rounds of 5.7 x 28 mm. It has a light rail and adjustable sights. The safety is in an unusual spot, above the trigger as shown in the picture above, and the magzine release can be moved to the other side of the gun. Since slides should be released by grasping the slide with the support side hand, pulling back and releasing, it doesn't much matter which side the built-in slide release is on.
Although ammunition is hard to find, and expensive, the 5.7 offers some unique attributes: high magazine capacity, low recoil, good sights, good ergonomics, and ease of operation (different from ergonomics...). The 5.7 has a reputation among those politicians with low IQs and reading skills as being a dangerous, because it will fire a round that can go through body armor. It is a military pistol that was designed to have this capability. Those of us who shoot as a hobby have no interest in this capability, but rather are intrigued by the flat shooting characteristics of the round. A pistol that can hit at 100 or even 200 meters is interesting, because most pistols don't do well at longer ranges. For personal defense, the 5.7 caliber may or may not be a good idea. We know that all pistol rounds are weak when compared with shotguns and rifles, and the 5.7 will not be an exception to that general rule. On the other hand, bullet placement is a key to an effective defensive shooting capability. The 5.7 should be very good in that respect, and a 20 round magazine and low recoil offers the chance to place several bullets in the same time another heavier caliber pistol's front sight would be coming back on target.
There is a discussion forum about the FiveSeven. Ha"
FN FiveSeven
The next pistol to be tested around here is the new FN FiveSeven 'USG' model. This pistol holds 20 rounds of 5.7 x 28 mm. It has a light rail and adjustable sights. The safety is in an unusual spot, above the trigger as shown in the picture above, and the magzine release can be moved to the other side of the gun. Since slides should be released by grasping the slide with the support side hand, pulling back and releasing, it doesn't much matter which side the built-in slide release is on.
Although ammunition is hard to find, and expensive, the 5.7 offers some unique attributes: high magazine capacity, low recoil, good sights, good ergonomics, and ease of operation (different from ergonomics...). The 5.7 has a reputation among those politicians with low IQs and reading skills as being a dangerous, because it will fire a round that can go through body armor. It is a military pistol that was designed to have this capability. Those of us who shoot as a hobby have no interest in this capability, but rather are intrigued by the flat shooting characteristics of the round. A pistol that can hit at 100 or even 200 meters is interesting, because most pistols don't do well at longer ranges. For personal defense, the 5.7 caliber may or may not be a good idea. We know that all pistol rounds are weak when compared with shotguns and rifles, and the 5.7 will not be an exception to that general rule. On the other hand, bullet placement is a key to an effective defensive shooting capability. The 5.7 should be very good in that respect, and a 20 round magazine and low recoil offers the chance to place several bullets in the same time another heavier caliber pistol's front sight would be coming back on target.
There is a discussion forum about the FiveSeven. Ha"
fnp90 from Police and Security News
fnp90: "FN Herstal USA, Inc.
There is one new player in the game and that is the firm of FN Herstal, doing business in the USA as FN Herstal USA, Inc. If this name sounds familiar, it�s because this company has been building the Browning designed High Power since its inception in 1935. FNH has spent the last three years surveying the U.S. law enforcement market and is now ready to deliver its new P90 Bullpup design submachine pistol, as well as a new handgun, the Five-Seven Pistol, with a capacity of 20 rounds. Both are chambered for a new cartridge as well � the 5.7 x 28mm round.
As to the efficacy of the new cartridge, FNH officials point out that, in the SMG, the bullet penetrates 48 layers (!!) of Kevlar� at 100 meters. (The ammunition is restricted to law enforcement sales only.) FN also has double-action-only, full-size and compact versions of the High Power, now only offered in 9mm. The FNH police shotgun is a pump action 12-gauge with a three inch chamber, blade front and open elevation adjustable rear sight, synthetic furniture and a parkerized type finish. FNH has also gone into the law enforcement training business, allying themselves with Crucible, a training corporation with an 88 acre facility in Northen Virginia. "
There is one new player in the game and that is the firm of FN Herstal, doing business in the USA as FN Herstal USA, Inc. If this name sounds familiar, it�s because this company has been building the Browning designed High Power since its inception in 1935. FNH has spent the last three years surveying the U.S. law enforcement market and is now ready to deliver its new P90 Bullpup design submachine pistol, as well as a new handgun, the Five-Seven Pistol, with a capacity of 20 rounds. Both are chambered for a new cartridge as well � the 5.7 x 28mm round.
As to the efficacy of the new cartridge, FNH officials point out that, in the SMG, the bullet penetrates 48 layers (!!) of Kevlar� at 100 meters. (The ammunition is restricted to law enforcement sales only.) FN also has double-action-only, full-size and compact versions of the High Power, now only offered in 9mm. The FNH police shotgun is a pump action 12-gauge with a three inch chamber, blade front and open elevation adjustable rear sight, synthetic furniture and a parkerized type finish. FNH has also gone into the law enforcement training business, allying themselves with Crucible, a training corporation with an 88 acre facility in Northen Virginia. "
Wednesday, September 07, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Problem with ejecting case or cycling...
Rnelson11's notes...
FN FiveseveN Forums - Problem with ejecting case or cycling...: "I've been off work a couple of days so I've spent a lot of time trying to address this problem. I started a new tread because I have a bit of new information.
First, I've had a few cases that extended out of the barrel further than the factory rounds but if I lube them well they are almost exactly the same as factory (.128'-.130'). I had one that was .164' and the breech would not fully close so the firing pin only slightly marked it. When this happens the slide sticks back about 1/16' and the round does not fire. But let me also say that an extended shoulder is not the only thing that will cause this (read on).
I had 20 rounds loaded today (10-35gr V-Max w/6.6gr of HS-6 and 10-40gr V-Maxw/6.7gr of HS-6) so I rode down to the woods to test them. I shot 5 of the 35 gr bullets and only 2 ejected so I saved the rest to check when I got back to the house. I shot 9 of the 40 gr bullets (the primer fell out of one) and only about half ejected. These cases have been fired about 8 times using a lot of different powder weights.
When I got to the house I started checking the rounds and noticed that the rims were beaten up pretty bad. I checked them with my micrometer and they were as much as .313' diameter, the factory rounds were .304'. I assume they flattened and pancaked from slamming against the breech when fired. I also noticed several with deep cuts which I assume came from being ejected. I spun the remaining 5 on a file and got then back to about .304'-.305' and de-burred the top and bottom of the rim. I went back to the woods and all 5 rounds fired and ejected.
I think that the damaged and 'pancaked' rims are preventing the ejection lever (hook) from catching the rim when trying to jerk the casing out at high speed. I say t"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Problem with ejecting case or cycling...: "I've been off work a couple of days so I've spent a lot of time trying to address this problem. I started a new tread because I have a bit of new information.
First, I've had a few cases that extended out of the barrel further than the factory rounds but if I lube them well they are almost exactly the same as factory (.128'-.130'). I had one that was .164' and the breech would not fully close so the firing pin only slightly marked it. When this happens the slide sticks back about 1/16' and the round does not fire. But let me also say that an extended shoulder is not the only thing that will cause this (read on).
I had 20 rounds loaded today (10-35gr V-Max w/6.6gr of HS-6 and 10-40gr V-Maxw/6.7gr of HS-6) so I rode down to the woods to test them. I shot 5 of the 35 gr bullets and only 2 ejected so I saved the rest to check when I got back to the house. I shot 9 of the 40 gr bullets (the primer fell out of one) and only about half ejected. These cases have been fired about 8 times using a lot of different powder weights.
When I got to the house I started checking the rounds and noticed that the rims were beaten up pretty bad. I checked them with my micrometer and they were as much as .313' diameter, the factory rounds were .304'. I assume they flattened and pancaked from slamming against the breech when fired. I also noticed several with deep cuts which I assume came from being ejected. I spun the remaining 5 on a file and got then back to about .304'-.305' and de-burred the top and bottom of the rim. I went back to the woods and all 5 rounds fired and ejected.
I think that the damaged and 'pancaked' rims are preventing the ejection lever (hook) from catching the rim when trying to jerk the casing out at high speed. I say t"
FN FiveseveN Forums - Heads up ss196 in stock
This was WRT the SS196 vs SS192/SS195
FN FiveseveN Forums - Heads up ss196 in stock: "21 Clicks up
Just crank in 21 clicks up to the rear sight and she will be good to go until you find better ammo. No need to be shy about moving the rear sight."
FN FiveseveN Forums - Heads up ss196 in stock: "21 Clicks up
Just crank in 21 clicks up to the rear sight and she will be good to go until you find better ammo. No need to be shy about moving the rear sight."
Saturday, September 03, 2005
Arizona Ear Protection
Arizona Ear Protection: "Shooting Products.
In the sport of shooting, hearing protection is vital. But the ability to still hear outside noise is also a very important safety aspect. With the many products available from Arizona Ear Protection Inc., we offer you the ability to achieve superb levels of hearing protection and still hear clearly all that is happening around you. This is an excellent feature for both sport shooters and hunters alike. No longer do you have to continuously put on your hearing protection, only to then have to remove it again to speak to someone next to you. Our hearing protection products allow you to wear them and forget them. You'll be able to hold a normal conversation and be assured that your hearing is protected
should you or someone else need to fire a shot.
Electronic Hearing Protection.
Our wide range of electronic protection covers all aspects of shooting and bow hunting, and we have several different applications to suit many varying circumstances. All of our products combine superb levels of hearing protection, along with very high levels of comfort. This allows the user to wear our products for long periods of time without risk of damage to your hearing or your ear canal"
In the sport of shooting, hearing protection is vital. But the ability to still hear outside noise is also a very important safety aspect. With the many products available from Arizona Ear Protection Inc., we offer you the ability to achieve superb levels of hearing protection and still hear clearly all that is happening around you. This is an excellent feature for both sport shooters and hunters alike. No longer do you have to continuously put on your hearing protection, only to then have to remove it again to speak to someone next to you. Our hearing protection products allow you to wear them and forget them. You'll be able to hold a normal conversation and be assured that your hearing is protected
should you or someone else need to fire a shot.
Electronic Hearing Protection.
Our wide range of electronic protection covers all aspects of shooting and bow hunting, and we have several different applications to suit many varying circumstances. All of our products combine superb levels of hearing protection, along with very high levels of comfort. This allows the user to wear our products for long periods of time without risk of damage to your hearing or your ear canal"
Friday, September 02, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - An Unconventional Pistol
FN FiveseveN Forums - An Unconventional Pistol: An Unconventional Pistol
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Fabrique Nationale, a firearm developer located in Herstal, Belgium, has been designing guns for over a century and supplying them to nearly every country in the world. One of their latest offerings, the 5.7mm Five-seveN pistol, is remarkably different than anything else of its kind. The most significant advantages incorporated in the Five-seveN are the ammunition, accuracy, weight, and size. The Five-seveN uses the 5.7x28mm ammunition designed by FN for their P-90 sub-machine gun. This means that the Five-seveN’s bullet is 5.7 millimeters thick and the shell is 28 millimeters long. Conventional pistols usually use 9x19mm or 10x21mm bullets that are effective for stopping an individual in ordinary circumstances. However, if that individual is wearing even a light Kevlar vest, these bullets will be stopped with little damage inflicted, and body armor is currently in use with over 50% of the world’s armed forces. For law enforcement officers, the ability to pierce body armor is also needed, as it is worn by an increasing number of criminals. The FN 5.7mm bullet when used in the Five-seveN pistol is perfectly fitted to these needs. It will pierce a US Army vest at 300 meters range, and a US Army helmet at 240 meters range*. Despite these figures, the 5.7mm round weighs half as much as a 9mm round and produces roughly half the recoil. The 5.7mm round of the Five-seveN has been designed to effectively incapacitate the target, but there has been controversy from skeptics over whether it is capable. Conventional hollow-point bullets rely on expansion to create a large wound, but the 5.7mm is made to hit the target, travel a few inches, then turn point upwards while inside the target and continue traveling in this manner. This means that the wound it creates would be as tall as the length of the projectile—a little over twenty-one millimeters or nearly one inch. The greatest argument in favor of the Five-seveN’s wounding ability is its performance in shootings. Anyone shot with a 5.7mm bullet has died immediately. Currently there have been over a dozen shootings with the 5.7x28mm round. Skeptics argue that this isn't a large enough sample to make any conclusions. The negligible recoil produced by the 5.7x28mm makes the Five-seveN remarkably accurate out to a range of 100 meters. The firer also has many chances to hit the target because the capacity of the weapon is also a vast improvement over other pistols. It holds twenty rounds of ammunition. But despite this capacity and the unusual length of its bullets, the Five-seveN is an incredibly light pistol, weighing 1.6 pounds loaded—only 70% as much as other plastic pistols and 50% as much as metal pistols. The Five-seveN is also reasonably compact, being the same size as comparable pistols that hold half as many cartridges of shorter length! It can be seen that the advantages incorporated in the FN Five-seveN make it an effective, if unusual, pistol.
---Written by DML, 09/02/05
* These figures come from FN's FNMI website.
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Fabrique Nationale, a firearm developer located in Herstal, Belgium, has been designing guns for over a century and supplying them to nearly every country in the world. One of their latest offerings, the 5.7mm Five-seveN pistol, is remarkably different than anything else of its kind. The most significant advantages incorporated in the Five-seveN are the ammunition, accuracy, weight, and size. The Five-seveN uses the 5.7x28mm ammunition designed by FN for their P-90 sub-machine gun. This means that the Five-seveN’s bullet is 5.7 millimeters thick and the shell is 28 millimeters long. Conventional pistols usually use 9x19mm or 10x21mm bullets that are effective for stopping an individual in ordinary circumstances. However, if that individual is wearing even a light Kevlar vest, these bullets will be stopped with little damage inflicted, and body armor is currently in use with over 50% of the world’s armed forces. For law enforcement officers, the ability to pierce body armor is also needed, as it is worn by an increasing number of criminals. The FN 5.7mm bullet when used in the Five-seveN pistol is perfectly fitted to these needs. It will pierce a US Army vest at 300 meters range, and a US Army helmet at 240 meters range*. Despite these figures, the 5.7mm round weighs half as much as a 9mm round and produces roughly half the recoil. The 5.7mm round of the Five-seveN has been designed to effectively incapacitate the target, but there has been controversy from skeptics over whether it is capable. Conventional hollow-point bullets rely on expansion to create a large wound, but the 5.7mm is made to hit the target, travel a few inches, then turn point upwards while inside the target and continue traveling in this manner. This means that the wound it creates would be as tall as the length of the projectile—a little over twenty-one millimeters or nearly one inch. The greatest argument in favor of the Five-seveN’s wounding ability is its performance in shootings. Anyone shot with a 5.7mm bullet has died immediately. Currently there have been over a dozen shootings with the 5.7x28mm round. Skeptics argue that this isn't a large enough sample to make any conclusions. The negligible recoil produced by the 5.7x28mm makes the Five-seveN remarkably accurate out to a range of 100 meters. The firer also has many chances to hit the target because the capacity of the weapon is also a vast improvement over other pistols. It holds twenty rounds of ammunition. But despite this capacity and the unusual length of its bullets, the Five-seveN is an incredibly light pistol, weighing 1.6 pounds loaded—only 70% as much as other plastic pistols and 50% as much as metal pistols. The Five-seveN is also reasonably compact, being the same size as comparable pistols that hold half as many cartridges of shorter length! It can be seen that the advantages incorporated in the FN Five-seveN make it an effective, if unusual, pistol.
---Written by DML, 09/02/05
* These figures come from FN's FNMI website.
Thursday, September 01, 2005
FN FiveseveN Forums - Stargate sling for the P90
FN FiveseveN Forums - Stargate sling for the P90: "Well, for those of you that want an opinion of how the sling works.. I use a P90 when I play airsoft, and I do use the P90 sling. Where I play there are lots of mountains, hills, river beds, and of course the occasional baracades.
I can tell you that carrying the P90 with this sling is very useful.
#1 - Since the weight is distributed around my whole body, the gun never becomes heavy, or the sling never rubs against my neck.
#2 - Since the weapon is in front of my body, I can bring it up to a shooting position quite easily, or let it drop when not using it.
If you guys have any other questions.. I will be more than happy to answer them.
Docfate"
I can tell you that carrying the P90 with this sling is very useful.
#1 - Since the weight is distributed around my whole body, the gun never becomes heavy, or the sling never rubs against my neck.
#2 - Since the weapon is in front of my body, I can bring it up to a shooting position quite easily, or let it drop when not using it.
If you guys have any other questions.. I will be more than happy to answer them.
Docfate"
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