Welcome to TSC Holsters: "Threat Solutions Consulting's
TSC Holsters
the original 'Ultra Concealment Rig'
(UCR)"
I have one of these. It's "OK" but the $59.95 that I paid (when FsN holsters were rare) could have been spent better elsewhere.
Thursday, May 31, 2007
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Random thoughts - semi+lever/trombone/straight pull
A small, lightweight rifle/carbine.
Should accept all of:
Five-seveN magazines
Converted M1 carbine magazines
Longer (front to back) custom magazines
Alternative magazine arrangement:
P90/PS90 magazines, mounted on the side, rather than the top.
Dual side-mount magazines (left and right) with the ability to quickly select which to feed from.
Must be easy to SBR.
Must be easy to take down.
Should be capable of semi-auto.
Should have lever-action or trombone-action or straight-pull as FTF/FTE recovery and alternative manual cycling.
Safety selector should be "safe", "manual", "semi"
Manual mode should lock the bolt until positive action is taken to cycle the bolt by gross action (no fine motor skills required.)
Ideally, would duplicate reciever dimensions of an existing/common firearm.
Should have folding stock as option.
Should accept all of:
Five-seveN magazines
Converted M1 carbine magazines
Longer (front to back) custom magazines
Alternative magazine arrangement:
P90/PS90 magazines, mounted on the side, rather than the top.
Dual side-mount magazines (left and right) with the ability to quickly select which to feed from.
Must be easy to SBR.
Must be easy to take down.
Should be capable of semi-auto.
Should have lever-action or trombone-action or straight-pull as FTF/FTE recovery and alternative manual cycling.
Safety selector should be "safe", "manual", "semi"
Manual mode should lock the bolt until positive action is taken to cycle the bolt by gross action (no fine motor skills required.)
Ideally, would duplicate reciever dimensions of an existing/common firearm.
Should have folding stock as option.
Airsoft News :: Airsoft-News.EU, news the European way!
Airsoft News :: Airsoft-News.EU, news the European way!
More pics of the Marushin FiveseveN GBB Airsoft
More pics of the Marushin FiveseveN GBB Airsoft
Tuesday, May 29, 2007
welcome to WWW.CARTRIDGE-CORNER.COM
Canadian cartridge collector/trader.
welcome to WWW.CARTRIDGE-CORNER.COM: "Welcome to
The Home Page of
Curtis Steinhauer
AND
www.Cartridge-Corner.com"
welcome to WWW.CARTRIDGE-CORNER.COM: "Welcome to
The Home Page of
Curtis Steinhauer
AND
www.Cartridge-Corner.com"
Another cartridge collector/trader.
Another cartridge collector/trader.
List home page: "Welcome to the ColCart Inc web site specializing in collectors cartridges and obsolete ammunition. The files shown below list a wide range of cartridges for sale as single specimens. All items listed are sold as collectors items only, they are not guaranteed to shoot unless specifically stated in their description. Everything listed is assumed to be original factory loads unless described otherwise. "
List home page: "Welcome to the ColCart Inc web site specializing in collectors cartridges and obsolete ammunition. The files shown below list a wide range of cartridges for sale as single specimens. All items listed are sold as collectors items only, they are not guaranteed to shoot unless specifically stated in their description. Everything listed is assumed to be original factory loads unless described otherwise. "
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Monday, May 28, 2007
5.7x28 mm@Everything2.com
5.7x28 mm@Everything2.com
Not 100% accurate. See annotated version for more comments.
5.7x28 mm
(thing) by machfive (3.9 d) (print) ? 1 C! Wed May 08 2002 at 3:24:34
Fabrique Nationale was one of two companies (the other being Giat of France) approached in the mid-eighties by NATO planners to solve two distinct problems which arose with military small arms. The first was the ability to arm soldiers whose mission objectives called for the use of both semi-automatic pistols and select-fire assault rifles. The second was the need to combat the increasing proliferation of Level II Kevlar vests and PASGT helmets.
In the past, when a soldier went into a special operations mission, ve often carried an assault rifle utilizing 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and a sidearm which used anything from 9mm to .45 ACP. This was a fine setup, but it required carrying two different kinds of ammunition, and the weight and size of the other ammunition put a limit on how much could be carried. Further, if the primary weapon was a 9mm based submachine gun, such as a Heckler and Koch MP5, they would lose the armor-penetrating ability of the 5.56 NATO rounds.
Fabrique Nationale sought to solve these problems by developing a round which possessed excellent ballistics, small size, and would be equally effective when chambered in a submachine gun or pistol. They answered NATO with the 5.7x28 mm round. It was first demonstrated in 1995 with the FN P90 submachine gun, and later in the Five-seveN pistol.
There are currently three varieties of the 5.7x28 mm round. The raw technical specs of the round are as follows.
SS190 - Standard
Bullet Type - FMJ
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grains
Muzzle velocity - 715 m/s for P90, 650 m/s for Five-seveN
Penetration - 48 layers of kevlar at 200 m
L191 - Tracer (color coded red)
Bullet Type - Tracer
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grains
Muzzle velocity - 715 m/s for P90, 650 m/s for Five-seveN
SB193 - Subsonic (color coded white)
Bullet Type - FMJ
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 117 grains
Projectile Weight - 55 grains
Muzzle velocity - 320 m/s for P90, 305 m/s for Five-seveN
Penetration - 24 layers of kevlar at 50 m
T194 - Training (color coded green)
Bullet Type - JHP (reducing ammo cost and damage of firing-range backstops)
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 95 grains
Projectile Weight - 28 grains
Muzzle velocity - 705 m/s for P90, 640 m/s for Five-seveN
The technical specs, by themselves, are impressive, but even more so when compared to the rounds which the 5.7x28 mm is designed to replace.
The SS190 ammunition weighs approximately half as much as standard 9mm or 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and has a smaller volume than either. This means you can effectively carry twice as much.
The recoil impulse of the SS190 round is 1/3 that of the 5.56x45 mm and 2/3 that of the 9mm. This translates to one being able to get second and third shots off quicker, or in the case of a full-automatic fire, being able to empty an entire magazine and keep your shots within a 9 inch circle at 50 feet.
The SS190 round transfers nearly all of its energy into its target, minimizing "over-penetration" and reducing the risk of causing negative collateral damage. This is significantly better than the 9 mm, which loses only 30% of its energy in the target, as well as frequent over-penetration.
The SS190 will penetrate a wide variety of body armor, whereas the 9mm will not. It comes close to the level of penetration offered by the 5.56x45 mm round. It will not, however, penetrate materials that the 5.56x45 mm round also cannot, like the 4" ceramic plates which cover the heart in Level III armor.
Due to its low profile and high muzzle velocity, the SS190 offers a nearly flat trajectory up to 200 meters. The L191 tracer round precisely matches the trajectory of the SS190.
Ballistic gelatin tests have shown that the round does not fragment or deform upon impact, instead spiraling and tumbling through soft targets, leaving a tiny .22" hole, and a whole lot of internal deformation. By not fragmenting or deforming, the bullet meets all NATO requirements as prescribed by The Hague Convention.
There are several reasons which explain the rather slow adoption of the 5.7x28 mm round. The first and most obvious, of course, is the fact that it is new. Very few people are willing to take a weapon system into battle if it hasn't been battle tested several times over. The P90 has only been known to have been used once in combat, during the Japanese Embassy crisis in Peru. Unfortunately, details of the weapon's role in that operation did not make it back to the public.
Further, most officers in charge of weapons acquisition for police and military organizations tend to be old school experts who still prefer stopping power and large bore calibers to the "light and fast" designs epitomized by the 5.7x28 mm.
Finally, the design of the P90, for example, is significantly different than the MP5, currently the subgun of choice, and veterans used to the handling characteristics of the MP5 would have a hard time re-training themselves to be as effective.
Although adoption of weapons utilizing the 5.7x28 mm round has been slow, it has been increasing steadily, and looks to continue doing so as battlegrounds begin to change from open air environments to close quarter battle and urban areas and weapons systems designed around it begin seeing more success.
This round is currently unlikely to show popularity for concealed carry or home protection because, despite being ideally suited to the types of threats those situations offer, it is banned in the United States for all but military and police purposes under the Brady Bill due to its armor-piercing abilities.
Not 100% accurate. See annotated version for more comments.
5.7x28 mm
(thing) by machfive (3.9 d) (print) ? 1 C! Wed May 08 2002 at 3:24:34
Fabrique Nationale was one of two companies (the other being Giat of France) approached in the mid-eighties by NATO planners to solve two distinct problems which arose with military small arms. The first was the ability to arm soldiers whose mission objectives called for the use of both semi-automatic pistols and select-fire assault rifles. The second was the need to combat the increasing proliferation of Level II Kevlar vests and PASGT helmets.
In the past, when a soldier went into a special operations mission, ve often carried an assault rifle utilizing 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and a sidearm which used anything from 9mm to .45 ACP. This was a fine setup, but it required carrying two different kinds of ammunition, and the weight and size of the other ammunition put a limit on how much could be carried. Further, if the primary weapon was a 9mm based submachine gun, such as a Heckler and Koch MP5, they would lose the armor-penetrating ability of the 5.56 NATO rounds.
Fabrique Nationale sought to solve these problems by developing a round which possessed excellent ballistics, small size, and would be equally effective when chambered in a submachine gun or pistol. They answered NATO with the 5.7x28 mm round. It was first demonstrated in 1995 with the FN P90 submachine gun, and later in the Five-seveN pistol.
There are currently three varieties of the 5.7x28 mm round. The raw technical specs of the round are as follows.
SS190 - Standard
Bullet Type - FMJ
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grains
Muzzle velocity - 715 m/s for P90, 650 m/s for Five-seveN
Penetration - 48 layers of kevlar at 200 m
L191 - Tracer (color coded red)
Bullet Type - Tracer
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 98 grains
Projectile Weight - 31 grains
Muzzle velocity - 715 m/s for P90, 650 m/s for Five-seveN
SB193 - Subsonic (color coded white)
Bullet Type - FMJ
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 117 grains
Projectile Weight - 55 grains
Muzzle velocity - 320 m/s for P90, 305 m/s for Five-seveN
Penetration - 24 layers of kevlar at 50 m
T194 - Training (color coded green)
Bullet Type - JHP (reducing ammo cost and damage of firing-range backstops)
Cartridge Length - 40.5 mm
Round Weight - 95 grains
Projectile Weight - 28 grains
Muzzle velocity - 705 m/s for P90, 640 m/s for Five-seveN
The technical specs, by themselves, are impressive, but even more so when compared to the rounds which the 5.7x28 mm is designed to replace.
The SS190 ammunition weighs approximately half as much as standard 9mm or 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and has a smaller volume than either. This means you can effectively carry twice as much.
The recoil impulse of the SS190 round is 1/3 that of the 5.56x45 mm and 2/3 that of the 9mm. This translates to one being able to get second and third shots off quicker, or in the case of a full-automatic fire, being able to empty an entire magazine and keep your shots within a 9 inch circle at 50 feet.
The SS190 round transfers nearly all of its energy into its target, minimizing "over-penetration" and reducing the risk of causing negative collateral damage. This is significantly better than the 9 mm, which loses only 30% of its energy in the target, as well as frequent over-penetration.
The SS190 will penetrate a wide variety of body armor, whereas the 9mm will not. It comes close to the level of penetration offered by the 5.56x45 mm round. It will not, however, penetrate materials that the 5.56x45 mm round also cannot, like the 4" ceramic plates which cover the heart in Level III armor.
Due to its low profile and high muzzle velocity, the SS190 offers a nearly flat trajectory up to 200 meters. The L191 tracer round precisely matches the trajectory of the SS190.
Ballistic gelatin tests have shown that the round does not fragment or deform upon impact, instead spiraling and tumbling through soft targets, leaving a tiny .22" hole, and a whole lot of internal deformation. By not fragmenting or deforming, the bullet meets all NATO requirements as prescribed by The Hague Convention.
There are several reasons which explain the rather slow adoption of the 5.7x28 mm round. The first and most obvious, of course, is the fact that it is new. Very few people are willing to take a weapon system into battle if it hasn't been battle tested several times over. The P90 has only been known to have been used once in combat, during the Japanese Embassy crisis in Peru. Unfortunately, details of the weapon's role in that operation did not make it back to the public.
Further, most officers in charge of weapons acquisition for police and military organizations tend to be old school experts who still prefer stopping power and large bore calibers to the "light and fast" designs epitomized by the 5.7x28 mm.
Finally, the design of the P90, for example, is significantly different than the MP5, currently the subgun of choice, and veterans used to the handling characteristics of the MP5 would have a hard time re-training themselves to be as effective.
Although adoption of weapons utilizing the 5.7x28 mm round has been slow, it has been increasing steadily, and looks to continue doing so as battlegrounds begin to change from open air environments to close quarter battle and urban areas and weapons systems designed around it begin seeing more success.
This round is currently unlikely to show popularity for concealed carry or home protection because, despite being ideally suited to the types of threats those situations offer, it is banned in the United States for all but military and police purposes under the Brady Bill due to its armor-piercing abilities.
Saturday, May 26, 2007
Fraser Tytler quote
One of the more startling references to this effect is attributed to the little-known 18th-century Scottish historian Alexander Fraser Tytler, who said:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote for themselves largess from the public treasury with a result that a democracy always fails under loose fiscal policy and is generally followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence -- from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, liberty to abundance, abundance to selfishness, selfishness to complacency, complacency to apathy, apathy to dependency and dependency back again to bondage."
All Americans should ask ourselves where we sit on that continuum today.
:: View topic - Tac Inv suppressors for sale (DFW)
Posted by PAR:
:: View topic - Tac Inv suppressors for sale (DFW): " just picked one up from Chris, great to deal with and very easy process.
Step 1, set-up trust - Quicken Willmaker ($40) or go the long route, i.e. CLEO sign-off, finger prints, photos, and citizenship form
Step 2, find a FFL/SOT dealer in OK that will handle the transfer (expect to pay a reasonable fee for this service)
Step 3, pay for the item, either through your dealer or directly (that will be Chris's call)
Step 4. item is sent to your dealer, then he will assist in completing form 4
Step 5, send a copy of your trust certificate, form 4 and $200 to ATF
Step 6, wait, wait, and wait. I called last week and was told anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks
Step 7, ATF sends the stamp to your dealer
Step 8, complete the last piece of paperwork with your dealer and take home to enjoy"
:: View topic - Tac Inv suppressors for sale (DFW): " just picked one up from Chris, great to deal with and very easy process.
Step 1, set-up trust - Quicken Willmaker ($40) or go the long route, i.e. CLEO sign-off, finger prints, photos, and citizenship form
Step 2, find a FFL/SOT dealer in OK that will handle the transfer (expect to pay a reasonable fee for this service)
Step 3, pay for the item, either through your dealer or directly (that will be Chris's call)
Step 4. item is sent to your dealer, then he will assist in completing form 4
Step 5, send a copy of your trust certificate, form 4 and $200 to ATF
Step 6, wait, wait, and wait. I called last week and was told anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks
Step 7, ATF sends the stamp to your dealer
Step 8, complete the last piece of paperwork with your dealer and take home to enjoy"
Friday, May 25, 2007
Shooters Depot - Boosters and Adapters for your firearms
Shooters Depot - Boosters and Adapters for your firearms: "With our revolutionary new techniques adapting ANY pistol to take
a suppressor became very easy. You do not need to have a new longer barrel
to be threaded anymore!
Even if you can find a longer barrel like for this Ruger, fitting and function testing of the new barrel (with questionable quality) will be costly. Then, attaching your suppressor means that you have to exchange barrels, or you keep the long one on, 'grabbing' on holsters or clothing. Our system is far superior and much more economical (for a limited time) we offer this service for $150.00 (if you are purchasing one of our suppressors). Now, that this technique is published in our website and advertised Nationally through other means, a lot of 'copy cats' will start showing around! We will deal with them individually since there is a Patent Pending on this technique. "
a suppressor became very easy. You do not need to have a new longer barrel
to be threaded anymore!
Even if you can find a longer barrel like for this Ruger, fitting and function testing of the new barrel (with questionable quality) will be costly. Then, attaching your suppressor means that you have to exchange barrels, or you keep the long one on, 'grabbing' on holsters or clothing. Our system is far superior and much more economical (for a limited time) we offer this service for $150.00 (if you are purchasing one of our suppressors). Now, that this technique is published in our website and advertised Nationally through other means, a lot of 'copy cats' will start showing around! We will deal with them individually since there is a Patent Pending on this technique. "
Thursday, May 24, 2007
GunBroker.com - Bid History for Item #72184809
GunBroker.com - Bid History for Item #72184809: " 5/22/2007 3:45:21 PM EST$250.00daytrader1 NR
5/22/2007 10:06:44 AM EST$205.01roget333 NR
5/21/2007 10:06:57 PM EST$200.00daytrader1 NR
5/20/2007 10:57:01 AM EST$175.00roget333 NR
5/18/2007 10:05:55 PM EST$140.142muchstuf A+(539)
5/17/2007 10:13:46 AM EST$101.01roget333 NR "
Box Of 50 Rounds - FN SB193 Subsonic 5.7 Ammo
Started at $0.01
Current Bid $250.00 Reserve Met!
Buy now was $350.00
7 day auction
5/22/2007 10:06:44 AM EST$205.01roget333 NR
5/21/2007 10:06:57 PM EST$200.00daytrader1 NR
5/20/2007 10:57:01 AM EST$175.00roget333 NR
5/18/2007 10:05:55 PM EST$140.142muchstuf A+(539)
5/17/2007 10:13:46 AM EST$101.01roget333 NR "
Box Of 50 Rounds - FN SB193 Subsonic 5.7 Ammo
Started at $0.01
Current Bid $250.00 Reserve Met!
Buy now was $350.00
7 day auction
GunBroker.com Item 71130419 [Ends May-07-07 09:52:18 PM] FN PS90/P90 Factory BLACK Stock, FS2000, 5.7
GunBroker.com Item 71130419 [Ends May-07-07 09:52:18 PM] FN PS90/P90 Factory BLACK Stock, FS2000, 5.7: "
A very hard to impossible to find.... Factory black FN PS90 stock w/butt pad like new! Trun your green stock to the factory black or replace your beatup stock with this like new one! Complete Stock w/butt plate, trigger,safety selector, no trigger pack. Makes a great spare part too to have both FN factory colors for your PS90! "
Started at $375.00
Current Bid $455.00 No Reserve!
Seller FA GUNS A+(67)
A very hard to impossible to find.... Factory black FN PS90 stock w/butt pad like new! Trun your green stock to the factory black or replace your beatup stock with this like new one! Complete Stock w/butt plate, trigger,safety selector, no trigger pack. Makes a great spare part too to have both FN factory colors for your PS90! "
Started at $375.00
Current Bid $455.00 No Reserve!
Seller FA GUNS A+(67)
GunBroker.com Item 70193549 [Ends Apr-15-07 10:44:04 PM] FN PS90/P90 FACTORY STOCK W/ INTERNAL LASER FNH!!
GunBroker.com Item 70193549 [Ends Apr-15-07 10:44:04 PM] FN PS90/P90 FACTORY STOCK W/ INTERNAL LASER FNH!!: "You are bidding on a NEW FN Herstal PS90/P90 stock with Laserex laser targeting unit internal laser installed for the FN PS90/P90. These laser's are the lasers that are installed in real FN P90's! The laser is clearly visible in day light and has two different power level selections which are able to be changed with the tiny toggle switch. This will be a great addition to add to your FN P90/PS90 collection. This stock was profesionally dyed black and had the Laserex laser professionally installed by a highly competent gunsmith. The laser alone retails for $260-$300 if you can find them!!
The auction is for the stock with laser system only. There whole weapon is not included. The trigger pack is not included.
The seventh picture down shows the laser beam at approximately 10 feet away during the day.
The high bidder will pay shipping of $19.95 U.S, which will include delivery confirmation USPS. If bidding from out of U.S. contact me for a shipping quote. I accept Money Orders or personnel checks (10 days to clear). Thanks and Good Luck Bidding!! "
Started at $0.01
Current Bid $749.99 Reserve Met!
BuyNow! Price was $749.99
Seller dezski24 A+(71)
The auction is for the stock with laser system only. There whole weapon is not included. The trigger pack is not included.
The seventh picture down shows the laser beam at approximately 10 feet away during the day.
The high bidder will pay shipping of $19.95 U.S, which will include delivery confirmation USPS. If bidding from out of U.S. contact me for a shipping quote. I accept Money Orders or personnel checks (10 days to clear). Thanks and Good Luck Bidding!! "
Started at $0.01
Current Bid $749.99 Reserve Met!
BuyNow! Price was $749.99
Seller dezski24 A+(71)
Translated version of http://www.la-gunshop.com/tokusetu/mkk_usg.html
Translated version of http://www.la-gunshop.com/tokusetu/mkk_usg.html
Translated version of airsoft FsNs for sale
Translated version of airsoft FsNs for sale
News from LA-GunShop at ArniesAirsoft News
News from LA-GunShop at ArniesAirsoft News: "Marui GBB Five Seven cast/prototype "
More pics of the airsoft FiveseveN
from Marui and Marushin
More pics of the airsoft FiveseveN
from Marui and Marushin
ARMS Magazine - June 2007 - Airsoft Canada
ARMS Magazine - June 2007 - Airsoft Canada
Photos of the ARMS article on the Marushin Five-seveN
Photos of the ARMS article on the Marushin Five-seveN
UNIVERSAL PISTOL SCOPE MOUNT WEVER BASE - SCOPE MOUNTS by Combathunting.com
UNIVERSAL PISTOL SCOPE MOUNT WEVER BASE - SCOPE MOUNTS by Combathunting.com
Another option for a bridge scope mount?
Another option for a bridge scope mount?
Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Florida Shooters Network View topic - Use of the Revocable Trust to Purchase NFA Items
Florida Shooters Network View topic - Use of the Revocable Trust to Purchase NFA Items
Posted by mjmensale:
Bob Howell has given us permission to reprint his Small Arms Review article on trusts. Any questions should be directed to Bob personally or start a thread.
Moe
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Special Guest Writer Bob J. Howell
Use of the Revocable Trust to Purchase NFA Items
It is my distinct pleasure to introduce to you a special guest contributor this month. The following article was authored by Mr. Bob J. Howell. Mr. Howell is a practicing attorney in Florida experienced in Trust and Estates Law He brings his wealth of knowledge and experience in the area to this piece, which examines the use of the revocable trust as a means of purchasing NFA items. Please enjoy Mr. Howell's unique perspective as he explores an important area of Estates and Firearms Law.
"My CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer) says he won't sign off on any Form 4s, now what do I do?" This is something that many in the NFA community have heard time and time again. Despite the best efforts of many to explain the true meaning of the signoff provision of the Form 4, there are still many CLEOs who do not understand the meaning of the signoff or do not want to understand for personal or political reasons. For many years, the standard reply to this question as been to advise the potential buyer to set up a corporation. While this method of purchasing NFA items has been in widespread use for many years, there is an alternative: the Revocable Trust.
A Revocable Trust is a legal entity established under state law, like a corporation, and as such, a Trust can hold title to real and personal property. Some are familiar with the use of a Revocable Trust for Estate Planning. However, many are unfamiliar with the use of a Revocable Trust to purchase and own NFA items. The NFA in 27 CFR §479.11 specifically defines a Person (i.e. someone who is authorized to purchase NFA items) to include Trusts as well as Corporations. Therefore, absent a state law in your particular jurisdiction prohibiting same, you may purchase and own NFA items through a Revocable Trust.
Aside from being merely an alternative method of purchasing an NFA item, the Revocable Trust provides many benefits over a Corporation or LLC. In states where a Trust is not required to be registered, a Trust will provide a more private method of ownership. In the author's home state of Florida, there is no requirement to register or record a Revocable Trust. Therefore, the existence and terms of the Trust are known only to those whom you choose to tell. This is generally not the case with a Corporation. In a casual conversation with someone at the range who is new to NFA and has questions about it, you might explain the legalities and process for purchase and ownership as well as how you purchased them through your corporation because the local CLEO refuses to sign. A quick search through the state's Division of Corporations website using your name or the name of the Corporation can yield a wealth of information. Through such sources, a stranger can find out information such as what corporations you are an officer of and the registered address of any such corporations. If you use your home address as the registered address of your corporation, the person performing the search now knows where you live and where you may store your NFA items.
Another area where a Trust may be more desirable is cost. With the cost of initial filing fees and annual corporate fees, your cost for the corporation may exceed the cost of setting up a trust either initially or over time. As an example, an individual in Florida wants to purchase a .22 suppressor from a dealer for $300. As his CLEO will not sign the Form 4, he sets up a Corporation to purchase the suppressor. Filing fees to set up the corporation (absent any cost of legal assistance or cost of a corporate book) were $70. The annual corporate filing fee is $150 and is paid every year the corporation is active. Five years later he still has the suppressor, but with annual fees he has paid $820 in initial filing and annual fees and will continue to pay $150 per year for as long as he wants to keep the suppressor. This is a lot of money for a $300 suppressor. Filing fees and annual fees for Corporations or LLCs may be different in your state, but the point is that once the Trust is established there are generally no further fees to maintain it.
In a typical Revocable Trust where you act as your own Trustee, there is no separate Federal tax return to be filed and any profit or loss incurred by the trust is passed through on your individual tax return. With a Corporation or LLC, you may be required to file state or federal tax returns, depending on your jurisdiction and the activities of the corporation. This too can be an added expense that using a Trust may avoid.
A Trust also has the benefit of being able to manage or distribute the Trust assets upon your death or incapacity. If you own NFA items in a Corporation and die, then your interest in that Corporation, and accordingly the assets held by the Corporation, will likely be subject to Probate. For those not familiar with Probate, it is the court authorized procedure where the assets of a deceased person are collected; their debts are paid, and the remaining assets are distributed to their beneficiaries pursuant to the terms of their will or in absence thereof, pursuant to the terms of state law. The duration and cost of this process may vary from state to state, but it is generally not cheap. By placing NFA items into a Trust, you can direct where those items are to go upon your death without fear of the high cost of probate. Revocable Trusts are a common tool used by estate planning attorneys across the country to help their clients avoid probate. The author has prepared many trusts for individuals, as part of their general estate plan, which they have used for the dual purpose of avoiding probate on their estate as a whole as well as to purchase NFA items.
Like a Corporation, there are no fingerprints or photos submitted with a transfer to a Revocable Trust. However, like a corporation, you must submit proof of the existence of the entity (be it a trust or corporation) with your Form 4. While many practitioners will advise the purchaser to simply submit a Certificate of Trust (typically a short one page notarized document confirming the existence of the trust and identifying the Trustee) as proof, the author recommends that you submit a full copy of the trust itself to avoid any questions from ATF as to the legitimacy and existence of the Trust. While some are uneasy about submitting a copy of their Trust with the Form 4, the author has had no issues with this practice. Additionally, as the Form 4 is essentially a tax document, the Form 4 and the documents accompanying it would be deemed private tax information between you and the ATE The last question the author is often presented with when discussing a Revocable Trust for NFA ownership is the subject of a professionally prepared Trust versus a self-prepared document. Depending upon the complexity of the Trust provisions regarding the management and distributions of the NFA items and whether the Trust is also being used for general estate planning purposes, in many areas the cost can run as little as a few hundred dollars. It has been the author's experience that many of the forms and computer programs available for drafting trusts and other legal documents provide just enough information to be dangerous. Like a wise man has said, you get what you pay for. While doing it yourself may save a few bucks, doing it wrong can cost you quite a bit more in legal fees or even your freedom. The author generally provides a prospective client with two pieces of free advice when asked about do-it-yourself documents. One is that you do not have to use the author, but do yourself a favor and use an attorney with experience in Trust preparation. The other is that if the cost of correctly preparing the documentation scares you, perhaps NFA is not the hobby for you.
Use of the Revocable Trust of NFA purchases is not new but rather is something that many were, until recently, unaware of. The Author has seen an increasing number of questions about its use on various websites along with an increasing number of well intentioned but misleading or incorrect answers. This article is intended to address many of those questions and provide an overview of the general traits and benefits of using a Revocable Trust for NFA ownership. Before proceeding however, you should always seek competent legal advice in your jurisdiction to determine if it is right for you.
Mark Barnes is an attorney with over 20 years experience. He began his career in public policy serving in both the legislative and executive branches of federal government. His firm, Mark Barnes and Associates, is located in Washington, D. C. and has been specializing in all aspects of federal firearms law since 1993. He can be contacted at MarkB17@aol. com. l. 10 No. 6• March 2007
Posted by mjmensale:
Bob Howell has given us permission to reprint his Small Arms Review article on trusts. Any questions should be directed to Bob personally or start a thread.
Moe
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Special Guest Writer Bob J. Howell
Use of the Revocable Trust to Purchase NFA Items
It is my distinct pleasure to introduce to you a special guest contributor this month. The following article was authored by Mr. Bob J. Howell. Mr. Howell is a practicing attorney in Florida experienced in Trust and Estates Law He brings his wealth of knowledge and experience in the area to this piece, which examines the use of the revocable trust as a means of purchasing NFA items. Please enjoy Mr. Howell's unique perspective as he explores an important area of Estates and Firearms Law.
"My CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer) says he won't sign off on any Form 4s, now what do I do?" This is something that many in the NFA community have heard time and time again. Despite the best efforts of many to explain the true meaning of the signoff provision of the Form 4, there are still many CLEOs who do not understand the meaning of the signoff or do not want to understand for personal or political reasons. For many years, the standard reply to this question as been to advise the potential buyer to set up a corporation. While this method of purchasing NFA items has been in widespread use for many years, there is an alternative: the Revocable Trust.
A Revocable Trust is a legal entity established under state law, like a corporation, and as such, a Trust can hold title to real and personal property. Some are familiar with the use of a Revocable Trust for Estate Planning. However, many are unfamiliar with the use of a Revocable Trust to purchase and own NFA items. The NFA in 27 CFR §479.11 specifically defines a Person (i.e. someone who is authorized to purchase NFA items) to include Trusts as well as Corporations. Therefore, absent a state law in your particular jurisdiction prohibiting same, you may purchase and own NFA items through a Revocable Trust.
Aside from being merely an alternative method of purchasing an NFA item, the Revocable Trust provides many benefits over a Corporation or LLC. In states where a Trust is not required to be registered, a Trust will provide a more private method of ownership. In the author's home state of Florida, there is no requirement to register or record a Revocable Trust. Therefore, the existence and terms of the Trust are known only to those whom you choose to tell. This is generally not the case with a Corporation. In a casual conversation with someone at the range who is new to NFA and has questions about it, you might explain the legalities and process for purchase and ownership as well as how you purchased them through your corporation because the local CLEO refuses to sign. A quick search through the state's Division of Corporations website using your name or the name of the Corporation can yield a wealth of information. Through such sources, a stranger can find out information such as what corporations you are an officer of and the registered address of any such corporations. If you use your home address as the registered address of your corporation, the person performing the search now knows where you live and where you may store your NFA items.
Another area where a Trust may be more desirable is cost. With the cost of initial filing fees and annual corporate fees, your cost for the corporation may exceed the cost of setting up a trust either initially or over time. As an example, an individual in Florida wants to purchase a .22 suppressor from a dealer for $300. As his CLEO will not sign the Form 4, he sets up a Corporation to purchase the suppressor. Filing fees to set up the corporation (absent any cost of legal assistance or cost of a corporate book) were $70. The annual corporate filing fee is $150 and is paid every year the corporation is active. Five years later he still has the suppressor, but with annual fees he has paid $820 in initial filing and annual fees and will continue to pay $150 per year for as long as he wants to keep the suppressor. This is a lot of money for a $300 suppressor. Filing fees and annual fees for Corporations or LLCs may be different in your state, but the point is that once the Trust is established there are generally no further fees to maintain it.
In a typical Revocable Trust where you act as your own Trustee, there is no separate Federal tax return to be filed and any profit or loss incurred by the trust is passed through on your individual tax return. With a Corporation or LLC, you may be required to file state or federal tax returns, depending on your jurisdiction and the activities of the corporation. This too can be an added expense that using a Trust may avoid.
A Trust also has the benefit of being able to manage or distribute the Trust assets upon your death or incapacity. If you own NFA items in a Corporation and die, then your interest in that Corporation, and accordingly the assets held by the Corporation, will likely be subject to Probate. For those not familiar with Probate, it is the court authorized procedure where the assets of a deceased person are collected; their debts are paid, and the remaining assets are distributed to their beneficiaries pursuant to the terms of their will or in absence thereof, pursuant to the terms of state law. The duration and cost of this process may vary from state to state, but it is generally not cheap. By placing NFA items into a Trust, you can direct where those items are to go upon your death without fear of the high cost of probate. Revocable Trusts are a common tool used by estate planning attorneys across the country to help their clients avoid probate. The author has prepared many trusts for individuals, as part of their general estate plan, which they have used for the dual purpose of avoiding probate on their estate as a whole as well as to purchase NFA items.
Like a Corporation, there are no fingerprints or photos submitted with a transfer to a Revocable Trust. However, like a corporation, you must submit proof of the existence of the entity (be it a trust or corporation) with your Form 4. While many practitioners will advise the purchaser to simply submit a Certificate of Trust (typically a short one page notarized document confirming the existence of the trust and identifying the Trustee) as proof, the author recommends that you submit a full copy of the trust itself to avoid any questions from ATF as to the legitimacy and existence of the Trust. While some are uneasy about submitting a copy of their Trust with the Form 4, the author has had no issues with this practice. Additionally, as the Form 4 is essentially a tax document, the Form 4 and the documents accompanying it would be deemed private tax information between you and the ATE The last question the author is often presented with when discussing a Revocable Trust for NFA ownership is the subject of a professionally prepared Trust versus a self-prepared document. Depending upon the complexity of the Trust provisions regarding the management and distributions of the NFA items and whether the Trust is also being used for general estate planning purposes, in many areas the cost can run as little as a few hundred dollars. It has been the author's experience that many of the forms and computer programs available for drafting trusts and other legal documents provide just enough information to be dangerous. Like a wise man has said, you get what you pay for. While doing it yourself may save a few bucks, doing it wrong can cost you quite a bit more in legal fees or even your freedom. The author generally provides a prospective client with two pieces of free advice when asked about do-it-yourself documents. One is that you do not have to use the author, but do yourself a favor and use an attorney with experience in Trust preparation. The other is that if the cost of correctly preparing the documentation scares you, perhaps NFA is not the hobby for you.
Use of the Revocable Trust of NFA purchases is not new but rather is something that many were, until recently, unaware of. The Author has seen an increasing number of questions about its use on various websites along with an increasing number of well intentioned but misleading or incorrect answers. This article is intended to address many of those questions and provide an overview of the general traits and benefits of using a Revocable Trust for NFA ownership. Before proceeding however, you should always seek competent legal advice in your jurisdiction to determine if it is right for you.
Mark Barnes is an attorney with over 20 years experience. He began his career in public policy serving in both the legislative and executive branches of federal government. His firm, Mark Barnes and Associates, is located in Washington, D. C. and has been specializing in all aspects of federal firearms law since 1993. He can be contacted at MarkB17@aol. com. l. 10 No. 6• March 2007
Tuesday, May 22, 2007
Monday, May 21, 2007
Sunday, May 20, 2007
Thursday, May 17, 2007
USPS - Track & Confirm
USPS - Track & Confirm: "Label/Receipt Number: 0307 0020 0004 4143 6790
Status: Acceptance
Your item was accepted at 4:05 PM on May 17, 2007 in WEBSTER, TX 77598. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later. "
Status: Acceptance
Your item was accepted at 4:05 PM on May 17, 2007 in WEBSTER, TX 77598. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later. "
Wednesday, May 16, 2007
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
FN FiveseveN Forums - I finally finished the dillon 550 shellplate.
FN FiveseveN Forums - I finally finished the dillon 550 shellplate.: "welcome psysage, I finnally figured out the price for the blued 5,7 shellplate and the three brass locator buttons, $62 shipping included."
Sunday, May 13, 2007
Resume production of 5.7FN ammo Petition
Resume production of 5.7FN ammo Petition: "To: Winchester Corp
The purpose of this petition is the help both the sport shooters interested in high volume low price ammo for their new PS90 rifles and to show Winchester Corporation that there is sufficient interest in the market for ammo.
Members signing the petition show interest in purchasing 5.7X29 FN ammo from Winchester corp.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned "
The purpose of this petition is the help both the sport shooters interested in high volume low price ammo for their new PS90 rifles and to show Winchester Corporation that there is sufficient interest in the market for ammo.
Members signing the petition show interest in purchasing 5.7X29 FN ammo from Winchester corp.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned "
Friday, May 11, 2007
:: View topic - Has anyone experienced a suppressed FN FiveseveN handgun?
:: View topic - Has anyone experienced a suppressed FN FiveseveN handgun?: "I use a 55grn FMJBT, with 3.5 grains Viht 3N37. Works like a charm and cycles the slide perfectly, every time. This is tailored to the pistol. For the carbine, drop the charge to 3.2."
Thursday, May 10, 2007
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - Suppressors, tell me 'bout yours
Posted by Mark McWillis:
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - Suppressors, tell me 'bout yours: "Thanks, Fargo. I am in final testing on a can that can be used on BOTH the PS90 SBR and 5.7 pistol with the Jarvis barrel. It should be available soon. I am VERY pleased with its performance. I have also done several PS90 SBR conversions with M10x1 adapters so the customers can use their Gemtech 5.7 pistol cans. They are all quite pleased with the them."
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - Suppressors, tell me 'bout yours: "Thanks, Fargo. I am in final testing on a can that can be used on BOTH the PS90 SBR and 5.7 pistol with the Jarvis barrel. It should be available soon. I am VERY pleased with its performance. I have also done several PS90 SBR conversions with M10x1 adapters so the customers can use their Gemtech 5.7 pistol cans. They are all quite pleased with the them."
Tuesday, May 08, 2007
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - Modifying your mag to hold 50 rounds yourself...............
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - Modifying your mag to hold 50 rounds yourself...............: "I have a 10 rounder and the body, and spring is identical to a 30 round and a 50 round units. They just use an epoxy to seal the baseplate to the baseplate detent plate on the 10 round unit. Its easy to take it apart if your careful. Maybe i have an older unit or newer unit from the one you have???"
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS Some Of My Favorites - Collection - Something for Everone.
Price changes since the last entry.
Original asking price on the DAO was $3,000.00
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS Some Of My Favorites - Collection - Something for Everone.: "Empting out the safe.
Rifles:
DPMS AP4 with .308 TA01B ACOG, Vltor Stock, Fab Defense Front Tactical Front Grip,
UTG Rail Covers, Three 19/20 round DPMS Magazines and all the factory goodies.
New $2000 plus shipping.
Shotguns:
FN Tactical 12 Gauge Pump.
New $650 plus shipping.
Mossberg 500 Bullpup 12 Guage Pump.
Used $600 plus shipping.
High Standard 10B 12 Guage Semi Auto.
Used $550 plus shipping.
Revolvers:
Ruger Vaquero Old Version .44 Magnum 5 ½ “ Barrel. Comes with all the factory goodies.
New $550 plush shipping.
Pistols:
Glock 17L Adjustable Sights, 3.5 Trigger, and 2 17 High Capacity Magazines.
Comes with all the original Glock goodies.
Used $650 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven Tactical. All the correct factory goodies.
Used $1700 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven DAO. All the correct factory goodies. SPF"
Original asking price on the DAO was $3,000.00
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS Some Of My Favorites - Collection - Something for Everone.: "Empting out the safe.
Rifles:
DPMS AP4 with .308 TA01B ACOG, Vltor Stock, Fab Defense Front Tactical Front Grip,
UTG Rail Covers, Three 19/20 round DPMS Magazines and all the factory goodies.
New $2000 plus shipping.
Shotguns:
FN Tactical 12 Gauge Pump.
New $650 plus shipping.
Mossberg 500 Bullpup 12 Guage Pump.
Used $600 plus shipping.
High Standard 10B 12 Guage Semi Auto.
Used $550 plus shipping.
Revolvers:
Ruger Vaquero Old Version .44 Magnum 5 ½ “ Barrel. Comes with all the factory goodies.
New $550 plush shipping.
Pistols:
Glock 17L Adjustable Sights, 3.5 Trigger, and 2 17 High Capacity Magazines.
Comes with all the original Glock goodies.
Used $650 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven Tactical. All the correct factory goodies.
Used $1700 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven DAO. All the correct factory goodies. SPF"
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS: P90 SBR Crows Foot/Wrench, SS190 & SS191 Ammo & Inexpensive PS90 Laser/Rail
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS: P90 SBR Crows Foot/Wrench, SS190 & SS191 Ammo & Inexpensive PS90 Laser/Rail: "I have the following items for sale. Will trade with $ for a new condition, clear P90/PS90 NSSS sight.
P90 5.7x28mm SS190 round/black tip – Steel Core - $20/round plus actual UPS Shipping – One round available
P90 5.7x28mm SS191 round/ black/red tip – Steel Core/Tracer - $25/round plus actual UPS Shipping – One round available
PS90 “Skinny” 15mm Crows Foot to fit the slot on the chamber end of a CMMG and FN PS90/P90 barrel. It has a 3/8 inch square for torque wrench drive. $42 shipped.
PS90 'Skinny' 19mm Wrench to fit the slot on a CMMG PS90 SBR factory style flash hider. $28 shipped.
P90/PS90 Laser/Rail - Inexpensive red laser with remote pressure switch and low profile side rail with stainless steel hex bolts that will fit onto a PS90/P90 in excellent condition. $45 shipped.
All NFA, Federal, State and Local laws apply.
Thanks.
Hoover 1 in Pittsburgh, PA"
P90 5.7x28mm SS190 round/black tip – Steel Core - $20/round plus actual UPS Shipping – One round available
P90 5.7x28mm SS191 round/ black/red tip – Steel Core/Tracer - $25/round plus actual UPS Shipping – One round available
PS90 “Skinny” 15mm Crows Foot to fit the slot on the chamber end of a CMMG and FN PS90/P90 barrel. It has a 3/8 inch square for torque wrench drive. $42 shipped.
PS90 'Skinny' 19mm Wrench to fit the slot on a CMMG PS90 SBR factory style flash hider. $28 shipped.
P90/PS90 Laser/Rail - Inexpensive red laser with remote pressure switch and low profile side rail with stainless steel hex bolts that will fit onto a PS90/P90 in excellent condition. $45 shipped.
All NFA, Federal, State and Local laws apply.
Thanks.
Hoover 1 in Pittsburgh, PA"
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS Some Of My Favorites - Collection - Something for Everone.
FN FiveseveN Forums - WTS Some Of My Favorites - Collection - Something for Everone.: "WTS Some Of My Favorites - Collection - Something for Everone.
Empting out the safe.
Rifles:
DPMS AP4 with .308 TA01B ACOG, Vltor Stock, Fab Defense Front Tactical Front Grip,
UTG Rail Covers, Three 19/20 round DPMS Magazines and all the factory goodies.
New $2000 plus shipping.
Shotguns:
FN Tactical 12 Gauge Pump.
New $650 plus shipping.
Mossberg 500 Bullpup 12 Guage Pump.
Used $600 plus shipping.
High Standard 10B 12 Guage Semi Auto.
Used $550 plus shipping.
Revolvers:
Ruger Vaquero Old Version .44 Magnum 5 ½ “ Barrel. Comes with all the factory goodies.
New $550 plush shipping.
Pistols:
Glock 17L Adjustable Sights, 3.5 Trigger, and 2 17 High Capacity Magazines.
Comes with all the original Glock goodies.
Used $650 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven Tactical with Night Sights. All the correct factory goodies.
Used $2000 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven DAO. All the correct factory goodies. SPF"
Empting out the safe.
Rifles:
DPMS AP4 with .308 TA01B ACOG, Vltor Stock, Fab Defense Front Tactical Front Grip,
UTG Rail Covers, Three 19/20 round DPMS Magazines and all the factory goodies.
New $2000 plus shipping.
Shotguns:
FN Tactical 12 Gauge Pump.
New $650 plus shipping.
Mossberg 500 Bullpup 12 Guage Pump.
Used $600 plus shipping.
High Standard 10B 12 Guage Semi Auto.
Used $550 plus shipping.
Revolvers:
Ruger Vaquero Old Version .44 Magnum 5 ½ “ Barrel. Comes with all the factory goodies.
New $550 plush shipping.
Pistols:
Glock 17L Adjustable Sights, 3.5 Trigger, and 2 17 High Capacity Magazines.
Comes with all the original Glock goodies.
Used $650 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven Tactical with Night Sights. All the correct factory goodies.
Used $2000 plus shipping.
FN Five-Seven DAO. All the correct factory goodies. SPF"
Monday, May 07, 2007
Sunday, May 06, 2007
Saturday, May 05, 2007
FN FiveseveN Forums - Reloading & Factory Ammo
FN FiveseveN Forums - Reloading & Factory Ammo: "40grain VMax or nosler ballistic tip.
5.2 grains Ramshot TrueBlue (factory powder and weight)
Winchester Small rifle primers.
Trim length 1.1355'
OAL 1.580'
THis is an exact factory clone load. No less, no more. "
5.2 grains Ramshot TrueBlue (factory powder and weight)
Winchester Small rifle primers.
Trim length 1.1355'
OAL 1.580'
THis is an exact factory clone load. No less, no more. "
Friday, May 04, 2007
PS90 Forum Blows!: Shipdick's disappointment
PS90 Forum Blows!: Shipdick's disappointment
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Thursday, May 3, 2007
Shipdick's disappointment
Two weeks ago, the retards at the PS90forum.com were celebrating what they perceived to be a victory over their arch-nemesis, the Fivesevenforum.com, after it was temporarily shut down by its owner, Nosferatu. To say that they were jumping for joy isn't descriptive enough, they were having orgasm's in their panties at the thought of having 'vanquished' their foe..by attrition.
What is the PS90forum.com? A collection of misfits and rejects that have been thrown off the fivesevenforum for being a bunch of assholes. Who is their leader? Shipdick, the former admin of the handgunforum.net site, who started his own forum in reponse to being banned from fiveseven for being a cock. Who are its members? The "Banned of Brothers," a rag tag collection of misfits, rejects, and malcontents. Most of which were banned from the fivesevenforum, some of which are just major dickheads. Take Shipdick for example. He claims to value freedom of speech but he readily edits other peoples posts when they have an opinion against his. Fuck you, Shipdick, and fuck that horrible rattly little piece of trash website and all those who live there.
As soon as the fivesevenforum went down, Shipdick and his asspirate pals thought they would have a free run at the 5.7x28mm community, and even expanded the size of their site by 400%.. but as soon as the real leader in the community was back online, their participation went to practically nothing, with only the hardcore loosers who couldn't go back to fiveseven still actively posting. And what do they have to say? Nothing. Only shit and hot air are squishing out between their teeth.
So, I send a big FUQ to Shipdick, Termollator, Whitetiger, Wildeye, Blackdog, tw4 (you fuckin' cunt), Axiom, Texas Armadillo, and last but not least, TexasRifleman. You all are a bunch of spooge drinking snatches. And to the guys who came over from the fivesevenforum and changed allegiance, I send a great big FUQ too! You know who you are, and you all blow goats.
Posted by Youri Dolgoruki at 3:31 PM
25 comments:
Anonymous said...
You kill me! lol!!
So true, so true..
Shipshit does suck the big cock, so do his buttbuddies!!!
May 3, 2007 5:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck you asshole...
May 3, 2007 5:28 PM
Anonymous said...
All to true...
May 3, 2007 5:37 PM
Anonymous said...
I noticed they had expanded their site in anticipation of a tidal wave of new members, what they have now is a few misfit members regurgitating the same false information to each other until it becomes gospel.
May 3, 2007 6:18 PM
Anonymous said...
"U", need I say more?
May 3, 2007 6:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Shipdick, eat a big bowl of 'shutthefuckup,' you little bitch.
May 3, 2007 8:27 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
I say we burn shipdick as an effigee. Not an effigee of shipdick, but shipdick for real.
May 3, 2007 8:28 PM
Anonymous said...
You guys are the biggest bunch of pussies I have ever seen or heard! Leave Shipwreck alone, he's cool. You guys are the assholes. Obviously you have notthing better to do than sit in front of your computers, cause you don't have wives or girlfrinds and pick on people.
Fuck off you nasty bitches!
May 3, 2007 8:55 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
Well lookie here, it must be that little bitch tw4 talkin' shit again.
What, mommy didn't breastfeed you as a child?
Or did your daddy stick his finger in your ass too much..?
You're a big man to sit behind a keyboard and talk a lot of shit about people, like the way you do on the PS90forum when you went after than obloncolon guy. Yeah, I read that, you cum gobbling fairy!
May 3, 2007 8:59 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on! I think you are really Medula Oblongata talkin' shit to everyone under an assumed name. I'm sure that ShipWreck will ban you for sure over this one! I'll let him know fucker!
May 3, 2007 9:15 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
Not even close you crossdressing faggot. lol, keep trying.. lmao!!
May 3, 2007 9:17 PM
Anonymous said...
Well MO has a blog and this ain't it.
Funny ass shit that is so true! I pissed my pants.
panzermk2 is that you? We know you coined the nic Shipdick awhile ago!
May 3, 2007 9:27 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
Colder and colder...
Try thinking PS90forum you little bitches!!!
May 3, 2007 9:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Shipdick should have never changed his avatar. It was perfect for him.
Bring back the dick sucker we know so well. Work that wrist hard you know how daddy likes it that way
May 3, 2007 9:58 PM
Medula Oblongata said...
This most certainly is not my blog, and I resent the implication. Furthermore, I have been in contact with Google, who now owns Blogger, and have made known my complaint against this 'blog' which is nothing more than vitiol and diatribe.
MY blog is Mind Of Medula. I have nothing to do with this in any way, shape, or form.
May 3, 2007 10:02 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
You can go suck a cock to you fucking asshole MO! and when you get home, give your wife a big kiss..cause I just did! lol
you better change those sheets too before you get in bed or you might end up in teh wet spot. she called my name all the time your picture was face down on the nightstand!
btw your sister is looking particularily hot and tasty maybe shell be my next sex puppet..
May 3, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
All yall can suck co9ck, cause I rule all!! All your bases are belong to me!!! mUhahahahaha!
Shitbreak, medrulla obloncolon, bclown, whitepanties, all yall can suck my dick cause' yall are a bunch of asspirates!!!
May 4, 2007 1:40 AM
Anonymous said...
Fuck you dicksuck!!!
May 4, 2007 3:51 AM
Anonymous said...
Tacky loosers with a chip on their shoulder is what that site is all about. They also spread their not so right everytime crap
on arfcom. The only new news they get is from lurking on what they call "that other site" then acting like found it out first.
lol what a buncha cocksuckers.
May 4, 2007 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Sucking and licking on a vagrants anus is what it seems they are best at,besides picking and eating scabs- why dont they just stick with that? They sure don't know guns.
May 4, 2007 12:04 PM
Anonymous said...
you fuckers need to get a life.
Ship is not that bad of a guy, What you don't like some competition?
May 4, 2007 3:52 PM
Anonymous said...
Competetion? What competetion? BOTH sites are full of aragant assholes and know it all dickheads. fuck them both i hope they all break their necks and get paralized!
May 4, 2007 4:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Wow, there are some truly brave souls posting here... You guys make me want to vomit. Grow up, let your balls drop, and start acting like adults instead of children. Well, I hope you are adults, but given your words, I'm fairly certain you are 12yo idiots.
-MO
May 4, 2007 7:04 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on, medrula oblongarbage! I know you like fucking those horses too you piece of shit. i heard about that pony of yours and the time you had behind the stables and how the paramedics had to come help you 'out.'
fucking idiot piece of shit dicksucker!
May 4, 2007 7:06 PM
Anonymous said...
You attacked a member on my board publicly - and were warned to stop. U promised you would - and after doing it again, I removed you from the community. Nice to see you are mature enough to be a gun owner, huh?
That's all there is to say - because anyone who knows me online knows the type of person I am. And, reading your blog gives people a clue as to what kind of person YOU are...
- Shipwreck
May 4, 2007 7:36 PM
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Thursday, May 3, 2007
Shipdick's disappointment
Two weeks ago, the retards at the PS90forum.com were celebrating what they perceived to be a victory over their arch-nemesis, the Fivesevenforum.com, after it was temporarily shut down by its owner, Nosferatu. To say that they were jumping for joy isn't descriptive enough, they were having orgasm's in their panties at the thought of having 'vanquished' their foe..by attrition.
What is the PS90forum.com? A collection of misfits and rejects that have been thrown off the fivesevenforum for being a bunch of assholes. Who is their leader? Shipdick, the former admin of the handgunforum.net site, who started his own forum in reponse to being banned from fiveseven for being a cock. Who are its members? The "Banned of Brothers," a rag tag collection of misfits, rejects, and malcontents. Most of which were banned from the fivesevenforum, some of which are just major dickheads. Take Shipdick for example. He claims to value freedom of speech but he readily edits other peoples posts when they have an opinion against his. Fuck you, Shipdick, and fuck that horrible rattly little piece of trash website and all those who live there.
As soon as the fivesevenforum went down, Shipdick and his asspirate pals thought they would have a free run at the 5.7x28mm community, and even expanded the size of their site by 400%.. but as soon as the real leader in the community was back online, their participation went to practically nothing, with only the hardcore loosers who couldn't go back to fiveseven still actively posting. And what do they have to say? Nothing. Only shit and hot air are squishing out between their teeth.
So, I send a big FUQ to Shipdick, Termollator, Whitetiger, Wildeye, Blackdog, tw4 (you fuckin' cunt), Axiom, Texas Armadillo, and last but not least, TexasRifleman. You all are a bunch of spooge drinking snatches. And to the guys who came over from the fivesevenforum and changed allegiance, I send a great big FUQ too! You know who you are, and you all blow goats.
Posted by Youri Dolgoruki at 3:31 PM
25 comments:
Anonymous said...
You kill me! lol!!
So true, so true..
Shipshit does suck the big cock, so do his buttbuddies!!!
May 3, 2007 5:11 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck you asshole...
May 3, 2007 5:28 PM
Anonymous said...
All to true...
May 3, 2007 5:37 PM
Anonymous said...
I noticed they had expanded their site in anticipation of a tidal wave of new members, what they have now is a few misfit members regurgitating the same false information to each other until it becomes gospel.
May 3, 2007 6:18 PM
Anonymous said...
"U", need I say more?
May 3, 2007 6:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Shipdick, eat a big bowl of 'shutthefuckup,' you little bitch.
May 3, 2007 8:27 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
I say we burn shipdick as an effigee. Not an effigee of shipdick, but shipdick for real.
May 3, 2007 8:28 PM
Anonymous said...
You guys are the biggest bunch of pussies I have ever seen or heard! Leave Shipwreck alone, he's cool. You guys are the assholes. Obviously you have notthing better to do than sit in front of your computers, cause you don't have wives or girlfrinds and pick on people.
Fuck off you nasty bitches!
May 3, 2007 8:55 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
Well lookie here, it must be that little bitch tw4 talkin' shit again.
What, mommy didn't breastfeed you as a child?
Or did your daddy stick his finger in your ass too much..?
You're a big man to sit behind a keyboard and talk a lot of shit about people, like the way you do on the PS90forum when you went after than obloncolon guy. Yeah, I read that, you cum gobbling fairy!
May 3, 2007 8:59 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on! I think you are really Medula Oblongata talkin' shit to everyone under an assumed name. I'm sure that ShipWreck will ban you for sure over this one! I'll let him know fucker!
May 3, 2007 9:15 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
Not even close you crossdressing faggot. lol, keep trying.. lmao!!
May 3, 2007 9:17 PM
Anonymous said...
Well MO has a blog and this ain't it.
Funny ass shit that is so true! I pissed my pants.
panzermk2 is that you? We know you coined the nic Shipdick awhile ago!
May 3, 2007 9:27 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
Colder and colder...
Try thinking PS90forum you little bitches!!!
May 3, 2007 9:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Shipdick should have never changed his avatar. It was perfect for him.
Bring back the dick sucker we know so well. Work that wrist hard you know how daddy likes it that way
May 3, 2007 9:58 PM
Medula Oblongata said...
This most certainly is not my blog, and I resent the implication. Furthermore, I have been in contact with Google, who now owns Blogger, and have made known my complaint against this 'blog' which is nothing more than vitiol and diatribe.
MY blog is Mind Of Medula. I have nothing to do with this in any way, shape, or form.
May 3, 2007 10:02 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
You can go suck a cock to you fucking asshole MO! and when you get home, give your wife a big kiss..cause I just did! lol
you better change those sheets too before you get in bed or you might end up in teh wet spot. she called my name all the time your picture was face down on the nightstand!
btw your sister is looking particularily hot and tasty maybe shell be my next sex puppet..
May 3, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
All yall can suck co9ck, cause I rule all!! All your bases are belong to me!!! mUhahahahaha!
Shitbreak, medrulla obloncolon, bclown, whitepanties, all yall can suck my dick cause' yall are a bunch of asspirates!!!
May 4, 2007 1:40 AM
Anonymous said...
Fuck you dicksuck!!!
May 4, 2007 3:51 AM
Anonymous said...
Tacky loosers with a chip on their shoulder is what that site is all about. They also spread their not so right everytime crap
on arfcom. The only new news they get is from lurking on what they call "that other site" then acting like found it out first.
lol what a buncha cocksuckers.
May 4, 2007 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Sucking and licking on a vagrants anus is what it seems they are best at,besides picking and eating scabs- why dont they just stick with that? They sure don't know guns.
May 4, 2007 12:04 PM
Anonymous said...
you fuckers need to get a life.
Ship is not that bad of a guy, What you don't like some competition?
May 4, 2007 3:52 PM
Anonymous said...
Competetion? What competetion? BOTH sites are full of aragant assholes and know it all dickheads. fuck them both i hope they all break their necks and get paralized!
May 4, 2007 4:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Wow, there are some truly brave souls posting here... You guys make me want to vomit. Grow up, let your balls drop, and start acting like adults instead of children. Well, I hope you are adults, but given your words, I'm fairly certain you are 12yo idiots.
-MO
May 4, 2007 7:04 PM
Youri Dolgoruki said...
go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on, medrula oblongarbage! I know you like fucking those horses too you piece of shit. i heard about that pony of yours and the time you had behind the stables and how the paramedics had to come help you 'out.'
fucking idiot piece of shit dicksucker!
May 4, 2007 7:06 PM
Anonymous said...
You attacked a member on my board publicly - and were warned to stop. U promised you would - and after doing it again, I removed you from the community. Nice to see you are mature enough to be a gun owner, huh?
That's all there is to say - because anyone who knows me online knows the type of person I am. And, reading your blog gives people a clue as to what kind of person YOU are...
- Shipwreck
May 4, 2007 7:36 PM
Post a Comment
FN FiveseveN Forums - Help!!
FN FiveseveN Forums - Help!!: "Here you go.
1. Remove magazine and unload weapon.
2. Remove magazine and unload weapon again in case you skipped step one.
3. Remove the slide.
4. Remove the barrel.
5. Set the slide down on its right side, so the FN stamp is facing you.
6. With a punch and hammer/mallet punch the Slide Cover pin from left to right
7. Remove the pin--note the knurled end is on the right side when you replace it.
8. Remove the slide cover starting from the rear NOT MUZZLE, you may need to
pry slightly to get it started.
9. Remove the cross pin.
10. Remove the firing pin and spring.
11. Once the cover is off remove the loaded chamber indicator and spring so you
don't lose it.
12. TAKE NOTICE OF THE SPRING THAT IS UNDER THE REAR SIGHT
OF YOUR PISTOL YOU MUST NOT LOSE THIS SPRING, Your pistol
will not function without it!!! This is held in place by the rear sight base plate and will fly off when the rear sight is removed. When you remove the rear sight cover
it with a cloth or something that will catch the spring. DO NOT LOSE IT.
13. Remove front and rear sights with a punch and mallet
14. Install the firing pin w/spring and cross pin.
15. Lay the slide upright and replace the small spring into the hole and
replace the chamber indicator and spring.
16. Place the new slide cover on muzzle first. Ensure that the tiny rear spring is in
place before you press it on completely.
17. Replace the slide cover pin right to left
18. Replace barrel, slide, and magazine.
And there you have it. "
1. Remove magazine and unload weapon.
2. Remove magazine and unload weapon again in case you skipped step one.
3. Remove the slide.
4. Remove the barrel.
5. Set the slide down on its right side, so the FN stamp is facing you.
6. With a punch and hammer/mallet punch the Slide Cover pin from left to right
7. Remove the pin--note the knurled end is on the right side when you replace it.
8. Remove the slide cover starting from the rear NOT MUZZLE, you may need to
pry slightly to get it started.
9. Remove the cross pin.
10. Remove the firing pin and spring.
11. Once the cover is off remove the loaded chamber indicator and spring so you
don't lose it.
12. TAKE NOTICE OF THE SPRING THAT IS UNDER THE REAR SIGHT
OF YOUR PISTOL YOU MUST NOT LOSE THIS SPRING, Your pistol
will not function without it!!! This is held in place by the rear sight base plate and will fly off when the rear sight is removed. When you remove the rear sight cover
it with a cloth or something that will catch the spring. DO NOT LOSE IT.
13. Remove front and rear sights with a punch and mallet
14. Install the firing pin w/spring and cross pin.
15. Lay the slide upright and replace the small spring into the hole and
replace the chamber indicator and spring.
16. Place the new slide cover on muzzle first. Ensure that the tiny rear spring is in
place before you press it on completely.
17. Replace the slide cover pin right to left
18. Replace barrel, slide, and magazine.
And there you have it. "
Wednesday, May 02, 2007
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - PS90 SBR Paperwork Step-By-Step
Posted by The Deviant:
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - PS90 SBR Paperwork Step-By-Step
Prerequisites:
*) Residence in a state that will allow you to possess a PS90
*) Residence in a state that will allow you to possess an SBR
*) FNH PS90
*) 200$ USD check or money order (payable to the "Department of the Treasury")
*) Two "Passport-Type" Photos (From Walgreens/Kinkos/Etc.) (~10$)
*) ~10$USD for getting your fingerprints taken
*) The following forms from the ATF:
ATF 5320.1 (Form 1) (Currently unavailable from the BATFE Website)
ATF 5330.20 (Citizenship Form)
Fingerprint "Blue" Cards (2)
Order the fingerprint cards (and the Form 1, since its no longer available on the site) from http://www.atf.gov/dcof/index.htm
Fill out the "Form 1" as instructed below (if you are an individual, and NOT a trust or corporation). You should type the data into the form, or print all data in block letters. I actually used a PDF editor called "flpsed" to just insert my information into the PDF.
1) Type of application: Check "Tax Paid"
2) Application is made by: Check "Individual"
3a) Leave Blank
3b) Applicant's name and mailing address: Put your name and mailing address as such (between the dots, as instructed):
William R. Thompson
1234 Somestreet Way
Wellsville, MO 63001
3c) If 3b was a PO Box, your physical location address should be put here, otherwise, leave blank.
3d) Put your COUNTY of residence (NOT COUNTRY), such as:
Jefferson
3e) Your telephone number (including area code) should go here, such as:
3143212522
4a) Name and location of original manufacturer of firearm:
Fabrique Nationale Herstal Belgium
4B) Type of rifle to be made:
Short-Barreled Rifle
4c) Caliber or gauge:
5.7x28mm
4d) Model:
PS90
4e) Length of barrel in inches (DO NOT ESTIMATE OR USE < 16" - the BATFE *WILL* send the application back to you for correction.):
10.3"
4f) Length overall in inches (DO NOT ESTIMATE OR USE < 26" - the BATFE *WILL* send the application back to you for correction.):
xx.x"
4g) Serial number (Put your actual serial number here):
FN000000
4h) Additional description (include all numbers and identifying data):
FNH USA FREDRICKSBURG VA
4i) State why you intend to make the firearm:
Collection and investment, including all lawful purposes.
5) Applicant's FFL Number (If you have one, put it here - ANY FFL type, including C&R (03) or leave black if you do not have one):
x-xx-xxx-xx-xx-xxxxx
6) Again, the scope of this how-to is for an individual, so you wouldn't need to fill out section 6.
7 & Answer these questions honestly by checking the box for "Yes" or "No".
9) Sign here.
10) Again, the scope of this how-to is for an individual, so you wouldn't need to fill out section 10.
11) Date of signature. Such as:
15APR2007
12) In section 12, affix one of the two "passport style" photos here.
13) Law enforcement certification. Again, this how-to is geared towards individuals. If you are a corporation or trust, you would not need to fill out this section. For an individual, fill in the first line that says "Name of Maker" with your name as it appears in section 3b such as:
William R. Thompson
***DO NOT FILL OUT THE REST OF SECTION 13***
I have found it helpful, sometimes, to use a highlighter and highlight the lines titled "Signature and title of chief law enforcement officer", "Signature and title of delegated person", "Organization", "Street address", "City State and ZIP", and "Date". My CLEO filled out a form once, and forgot to put the date, which would cause a kick-back from the BATFE, and therefore a delay. Might as well make sure they see it.
You are now done filling out the "Form 1". Now do the exact same thing, such that you have a SECOND IDENTICAL COPY. Obviously, you can omit the signature/photos/highlighter from the initial form, copy it on a copier, and then sign it, highlight it, and affix your passport photo to each copy.
The next step is to get your fingerprints taken on the "blue cards". You will need two sets (two cards). Taking the cards to your local sheriff's department or police department is probably the best idea. Be sure they fill out/sign the cards. The fee for this is usually around 10$.
Next, it is time to fill out the 5330.20 form. This is very simple, but if you neglect to di it, you will get the "Form 1s" sent back to you.
To fill out the 5330.20 form place the following information in the sections:
1) Name:
Thompson, William R.
2) Name of person certifying citizenship (put the same name as section 1):
Thompson, William R.
3) What is your COUNTRY of citizenship? Put your country of citizenship. If you have multi-citizenship, put them here.
United States of America
4 and 5) If you are an alien, fill out this section. I am not, so I didn't fill this out.
6) If you are an alien and answered "Yes" to question 5, fill this section out.
7) Sign and date here using the same name as in the other sections.
I'm not positive if you need two of these or not, so I did two of them. Again, it might be useful to not sign it, copy it, then sign the copies to save you some work.
The next step is to get the CLEO's sign off on your "Form 1s".
After you have everything ready, send or deliver in person your "Form 1s" to the CLEO's office. You can hand-deliver these to their office, or send them in. In my case, I called the local Sheriff's office, and asked where to send them, and to who's attention. Obviously, if you mail the "Form 1s", use certified mail. You only need to send the two "Form 1s", and a cover letter. My cover letter was as follows (In MO, you have to be a FFL (any type) to possess NFA arms (even Non-C&R NFA arms):
William R. Thompson
1234 Somestreet Way
Wellsville, MO 63001
314-321-2522
April 15, 2007
Dear Sheriff Suchandsuch:
Enclosed, please find two completed copies of an ATF Form 1 (5320.1). I am requesting that you please complete section 13 (Law Enforcement Certification) and return both copies to me at your earliest convenience.
I am a federally licensed collector (License No. 5-43-099-03-8F-03381), as required by RSMo 571.020 § 2 (5).
Thank you for your time. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this or any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Respectfully yours,
William R. Thompson
Obviously, tailor your letter as you see fit.
After the letter and "Form 1s" are sent, wait for your CLEO to return them to you. Luckily, my Sheriff is *very* cool when it comes to this, so I got mine back the same week!
After you receive your CLEO-signed "Form 1s" back, place the following in an envelope large enough to contain them:
*) Both copies of the "Form 1", both signed by you and the CLEO, including your picture affixed to each.
*) Both copies of the 5330.20 form signed by you.
*) Both "blue cards" of your fingerprints.
*) Check for $200 USD made payable to the "Department of the Treasury"
Send all of this *certified mail* to the ATF at the address on the Form 1.
If your forms are approved, you will receive one of them back, with a 200$ tax stamp affixed to it. You now have permission to proceed with the SBR conversion. If they did NOT accept your form, you will get a letter back with your "Form 1s" stating the reasoning. Usually, it is due to incorrect information, or something omitted.
The next step is to get your receiver engraved with the required information, for example:
William R. Thompson
Wellsville, MO
Keep in mind, this needs to be done in a CONSPICUOUS location ON THE RECEIVER, and must be at least 1/16th" tall and .003" deep. Don't try and get cute with this and put it where it is not immediately visable. If you want, get the engraving "blacked out" to make it blend in better - don't screw with the BATFE by putting it where you have to disassemble the weapon - that is ILLEGAL.
Next, remove the factory barrel (see the FAQs) and replace with your favorite short barrel!
This is intended to be complete, but obviously I may miss something. If you have ANY doubts about ANY regulations, contact the BATFE and your local law enforcement officials.
td
FN Forum.NET :: View topic - PS90 SBR Paperwork Step-By-Step
Prerequisites:
*) Residence in a state that will allow you to possess a PS90
*) Residence in a state that will allow you to possess an SBR
*) FNH PS90
*) 200$ USD check or money order (payable to the "Department of the Treasury")
*) Two "Passport-Type" Photos (From Walgreens/Kinkos/Etc.) (~10$)
*) ~10$USD for getting your fingerprints taken
*) The following forms from the ATF:
ATF 5320.1 (Form 1) (Currently unavailable from the BATFE Website)
ATF 5330.20 (Citizenship Form)
Fingerprint "Blue" Cards (2)
Order the fingerprint cards (and the Form 1, since its no longer available on the site) from http://www.atf.gov/dcof/index.htm
Fill out the "Form 1" as instructed below (if you are an individual, and NOT a trust or corporation). You should type the data into the form, or print all data in block letters. I actually used a PDF editor called "flpsed" to just insert my information into the PDF.
1) Type of application: Check "Tax Paid"
2) Application is made by: Check "Individual"
3a) Leave Blank
3b) Applicant's name and mailing address: Put your name and mailing address as such (between the dots, as instructed):
William R. Thompson
1234 Somestreet Way
Wellsville, MO 63001
3c) If 3b was a PO Box, your physical location address should be put here, otherwise, leave blank.
3d) Put your COUNTY of residence (NOT COUNTRY), such as:
Jefferson
3e) Your telephone number (including area code) should go here, such as:
3143212522
4a) Name and location of original manufacturer of firearm:
Fabrique Nationale Herstal Belgium
4B) Type of rifle to be made:
Short-Barreled Rifle
4c) Caliber or gauge:
5.7x28mm
4d) Model:
PS90
4e) Length of barrel in inches (DO NOT ESTIMATE OR USE < 16" - the BATFE *WILL* send the application back to you for correction.):
10.3"
4f) Length overall in inches (DO NOT ESTIMATE OR USE < 26" - the BATFE *WILL* send the application back to you for correction.):
xx.x"
4g) Serial number (Put your actual serial number here):
FN000000
4h) Additional description (include all numbers and identifying data):
FNH USA FREDRICKSBURG VA
4i) State why you intend to make the firearm:
Collection and investment, including all lawful purposes.
5) Applicant's FFL Number (If you have one, put it here - ANY FFL type, including C&R (03) or leave black if you do not have one):
x-xx-xxx-xx-xx-xxxxx
6) Again, the scope of this how-to is for an individual, so you wouldn't need to fill out section 6.
7 & Answer these questions honestly by checking the box for "Yes" or "No".
9) Sign here.
10) Again, the scope of this how-to is for an individual, so you wouldn't need to fill out section 10.
11) Date of signature. Such as:
15APR2007
12) In section 12, affix one of the two "passport style" photos here.
13) Law enforcement certification. Again, this how-to is geared towards individuals. If you are a corporation or trust, you would not need to fill out this section. For an individual, fill in the first line that says "Name of Maker" with your name as it appears in section 3b such as:
William R. Thompson
***DO NOT FILL OUT THE REST OF SECTION 13***
I have found it helpful, sometimes, to use a highlighter and highlight the lines titled "Signature and title of chief law enforcement officer", "Signature and title of delegated person", "Organization", "Street address", "City State and ZIP", and "Date". My CLEO filled out a form once, and forgot to put the date, which would cause a kick-back from the BATFE, and therefore a delay. Might as well make sure they see it.
You are now done filling out the "Form 1". Now do the exact same thing, such that you have a SECOND IDENTICAL COPY. Obviously, you can omit the signature/photos/highlighter from the initial form, copy it on a copier, and then sign it, highlight it, and affix your passport photo to each copy.
The next step is to get your fingerprints taken on the "blue cards". You will need two sets (two cards). Taking the cards to your local sheriff's department or police department is probably the best idea. Be sure they fill out/sign the cards. The fee for this is usually around 10$.
Next, it is time to fill out the 5330.20 form. This is very simple, but if you neglect to di it, you will get the "Form 1s" sent back to you.
To fill out the 5330.20 form place the following information in the sections:
1) Name:
Thompson, William R.
2) Name of person certifying citizenship (put the same name as section 1):
Thompson, William R.
3) What is your COUNTRY of citizenship? Put your country of citizenship. If you have multi-citizenship, put them here.
United States of America
4 and 5) If you are an alien, fill out this section. I am not, so I didn't fill this out.
6) If you are an alien and answered "Yes" to question 5, fill this section out.
7) Sign and date here using the same name as in the other sections.
I'm not positive if you need two of these or not, so I did two of them. Again, it might be useful to not sign it, copy it, then sign the copies to save you some work.
The next step is to get the CLEO's sign off on your "Form 1s".
After you have everything ready, send or deliver in person your "Form 1s" to the CLEO's office. You can hand-deliver these to their office, or send them in. In my case, I called the local Sheriff's office, and asked where to send them, and to who's attention. Obviously, if you mail the "Form 1s", use certified mail. You only need to send the two "Form 1s", and a cover letter. My cover letter was as follows (In MO, you have to be a FFL (any type) to possess NFA arms (even Non-C&R NFA arms):
William R. Thompson
1234 Somestreet Way
Wellsville, MO 63001
314-321-2522
April 15, 2007
Dear Sheriff Suchandsuch:
Enclosed, please find two completed copies of an ATF Form 1 (5320.1). I am requesting that you please complete section 13 (Law Enforcement Certification) and return both copies to me at your earliest convenience.
I am a federally licensed collector (License No. 5-43-099-03-8F-03381), as required by RSMo 571.020 § 2 (5).
Thank you for your time. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this or any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Respectfully yours,
William R. Thompson
Obviously, tailor your letter as you see fit.
After the letter and "Form 1s" are sent, wait for your CLEO to return them to you. Luckily, my Sheriff is *very* cool when it comes to this, so I got mine back the same week!
After you receive your CLEO-signed "Form 1s" back, place the following in an envelope large enough to contain them:
*) Both copies of the "Form 1", both signed by you and the CLEO, including your picture affixed to each.
*) Both copies of the 5330.20 form signed by you.
*) Both "blue cards" of your fingerprints.
*) Check for $200 USD made payable to the "Department of the Treasury"
Send all of this *certified mail* to the ATF at the address on the Form 1.
If your forms are approved, you will receive one of them back, with a 200$ tax stamp affixed to it. You now have permission to proceed with the SBR conversion. If they did NOT accept your form, you will get a letter back with your "Form 1s" stating the reasoning. Usually, it is due to incorrect information, or something omitted.
The next step is to get your receiver engraved with the required information, for example:
William R. Thompson
Wellsville, MO
Keep in mind, this needs to be done in a CONSPICUOUS location ON THE RECEIVER, and must be at least 1/16th" tall and .003" deep. Don't try and get cute with this and put it where it is not immediately visable. If you want, get the engraving "blacked out" to make it blend in better - don't screw with the BATFE by putting it where you have to disassemble the weapon - that is ILLEGAL.
Next, remove the factory barrel (see the FAQs) and replace with your favorite short barrel!
This is intended to be complete, but obviously I may miss something. If you have ANY doubts about ANY regulations, contact the BATFE and your local law enforcement officials.
td
Tuesday, May 01, 2007
Marushin FN 5-7 - Acme Airsoft
Posted by jawinn (administrator)
Marushin FN 5-7 - Acme Airsoft: "
There are finally some details out about the Marushin FN 5-7 pistol. There will be two versions; one 6mm and one 8mm. Both will be gas blow back. Expect to see both out this summer. They will be in the $100 to $130 range."
Marushin FN 5-7 - Acme Airsoft: "
There are finally some details out about the Marushin FN 5-7 pistol. There will be two versions; one 6mm and one 8mm. Both will be gas blow back. Expect to see both out this summer. They will be in the $100 to $130 range."
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